In the Media – Are you a casual racist? … 44% so far have said Yes, but I’m not going to change!!!

Are you a casual racist?

Date May 30, 2013        

Megan Levy

An Australian, an Indian and a Chinese man walk into a bar.

Were you gearing up for a little chuckle then?

If you were, you’re racist, and that’s no joke, says one expert from the  University of Sydney.

Comments by Collingwood president Eddie McGuire (left) about Adam Goodes prompted Harry O'Brien (right) to question Australia's tendency for casual racism.

Comments by Collingwood president Eddie McGuire (left) about Adam Goodes  prompted Harry O’Brien (right) to question Australia’s tendency for casual  racism. Photo: Joe Armao

Eddie McGuire’s controversial comments this week about using dual AFL  Brownlow medallist Adam Goodes to promote the musical King Kong have thrust into  the spotlight once again the prevalence and varying types of racism in  Australia.

The Collingwood president faced a barrage of criticism for his so-called  “slip of the tongue”, prompting one of his club’s footballers, Harry O’Brien, to  say that racism in Australia was often cloaked by “larrikinism.”

“To me Eddie’s comments are reflective of common attitudes that we as a  society face,” tweeted O’Brien, who was born in Rio de Janeiro to a Brazilian  mother and a Congolese father.

“To me Australia is very casual with racism, I would argue that many people  in this country would not think what Eddie or the 13yr [sic] old girl said last  Friday is ‘bad’.

Urban Dictionary defines casual racism as “the art of being slightly racist  in a casual fashion. It’s when one doesn’t really hate people of another colour”  but still laughs at jokes at their expense.

That’s the type of ignorance that needs to be tackled head on, said Professor  Shane Houston, the University of Sydney’s Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Indigenous  Strategy and Services).

Professor Houston was the first Aboriginal person to be appointed to such a  senior role at any Australian university.

He said most Australians recognised instances of overt racism in which, for  example, a person was denied a job or access to housing because of the colour of  their skin.

However, he said that society tended to tolerate jokes or statements by those  who didn’t realise they were causing offence.

But he said if one person was offended by a joke, it was racist.

“People need to understand that it’s not okay to laugh at other people or to  discriminate against other people just because they are different and they are  in a minority,” he said.

“The rights of a single Australian are as important as the rights of the  rest. If I’m in a group of 50 people who aren’t Aboriginal who crack a joke  about Aboriginal people and they all have a bit of a chuckle, I have to say  that’s unacceptable. We have to call it for what it is. It’s racism, and the  majority has to think about how they position themselves in those sorts of  situations.”

Professor Houston said society tended to tolerate racist jokes, often because  it was hard for people in a minority to speak up when they were offended

“But if you let the jokes go by it reinforces the unacceptable behaviour  which is outside of what people see as discrimination.”

The other form of frequently unrecognised racism, Professor Houston said, was  institutional racism.

He said institutional racism was when an organisation or body created an  environment in which a situation was tolerated because it benefited the  majority.

“For example, in setting public policy, the structure of a particular program  might work for 80 per cent of the population, but because the circumstances of  Aboriginal people or people from migrant communities don’t fit the profile that  was used to create the program, their access is limited,” Professor Houston  said.

“We often don’t think of those things as discrimination, but they are in  effect discriminatory.”

Despite the recent controversy, Professor Houston said the attitudes of  Australians had come a long way since the 1967 referendum, which resulted in  indigenous Australians being counted in the census for the first time.

He said Australia needed to find strategies to educate people earlier about  what was acceptable behaviour and what wasn’t.

“It’s better to put a fence at the top of the cliff rather than an ambulance  at the bottom of the cliff, and I reckon if you ask Eddie McGuire, he’d say  exactly the same thing,” Professor Houston said.

“We’ve seen a huge shift in the character and the flavour of our social  interactions in our society. Do we have some way to go? Absolutely, yes. But  let’s not forget that as a society we’ve seen incredible changes and maturing,  and I want to celebrate that. But that’s a tool we use then to tackle the  journey not yet completed.”

Clarification: An earlier version of this story led with the sentence:  “An Australian, an Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.” This was  changed due to the fact a person from these three countries is often of the same  race. 

Poll: Having read the article, do you think you’re a  casual racist?

Yes, I might rethink my behaviour
20%

Yes, but I’m not going to change
44%

No
36%

Total votes: 11512.

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378 comments so far

  • Unfortunately, yes were are racist, full stop, we are trying not to be

    Commenter
    Geen
    Location
    Moss Vale
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:13PM
    • Were not all racist – if Adam Goodes had called Eddie Maguire and ape, we  would all laugh and move on straight away without any media attention or racist  commentary. Pop down to Lakemba or Leichhardt and you’ll see the real racists –  the ones that always talk of the old country and refuse to speak English unless  they have to.

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      Chris
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      May 30, 2013, 4:48PM
    • Chris, you don’y get it do you.  Calling Maguire an “ape” doesn’t have the  connotations the term carries for a black person, given the sordid history of  blacks being considered inferior or less human (and treated as such) over  centuries …….You are a classic example of someone who needs to be educated  about racism!

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      Frank
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      May 30, 2013, 5:00PM
    • When I travel and meet people, they invariably ask where your from? After I  reply from Australia, a friendly conversation starts. After they,re comfortable,  they’ll say, by the way – don’t deny it but you Aussies are racist. My startled  reaction is along the lines, course we friggin are, and were not lettin bastards  like you emigrate to our country……

      From a white Australia policy, we have grown up a little. With more education  we will be more enlightened, independent thinking and who knows wanting a  republic. It always disappoints me to see 3 flags, Australian then aboriginal  , Torres straight outside a school.  The Australian flag with its British ensign  signifies a dominance or superiority which is the indigenous people’s need their  own flag. I’m from a non Anglo background am I less of an Australian since none  of these are relevant or am I more wanting 1 flag so that we may be equal and  not consider racism towards each other.

      Commenter
      Tad
      Location
      Nsw
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:03PM
    • Are you getting treatment for that white middle class guilt Frank?

      Seems it’s “OK” to be racist toward white people because there are no  connotations there.

      I guess you are both racist and a hypocrite.

      Commenter
      Percy
      Location
      Surry Hills
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:11PM
    • @Chris It’s not a competition mate.  It’s either racist or it’s not.  As an ethnic person I find what Eddie McGuire did more offensive.  But just  because I do I don’t come out with a blanket statement like yours and declare  only those I find offensive racist I agree immigrants who come to his country  but refuses to assimilate and hates/resents those of European decent are  racists.  But what they do have no bearing on what McGuire did. Maybe try to  withhold our own judgement and try to put yourself in the other person’s  shoes.

      Commenter
      Vin

                      

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      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:12PM
    • geen and frank, yr both bang on the money. the justification of overt hatred  for aboriginals – and anyone else of non-anglo saxon descent – around this  latest (though certainly not the last) episode of collective bigotry is  revolting and terrifying.

      anytime i hear someone say “i’m not racist, but …” i immediately expect to  hear them conclude with “… some good ol’ tar-and-feathering and lynching is  just what australia needs.”

      australia, you repulse me.

      Commenter
      thaddeus
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      stanmore

                          

      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:12PM
    • I’m not a racist but you’re mum is..  My ginga mate is..  Ask Tom Hawkins if  he felt weightily vilified by Harry’s comments during a recent match about him  being fat.. This is going to far!  I’m wrapped it’s on the table and it’s up  for discussion but can we not throw the baby out with bath water..  Oops, is it  ok to say that or have I upset someone else.. Our culture is getting better,  I don’t believe we’re as racist as we were 20-30yrs ago and that’s due to our  awesome multicultural policy..

      Commenter
      shaun
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:13PM
    • Frank,

      Goodes is not African so it doesn’t apply. There is no difference between  calling Goodes or Eddie an ape.

      Commenter
      Chris
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      May 30, 2013, 5:16PM
    • Yes most Australians are racists.  Although they always don’t say anything  rude on face.  At school, white parents avoid talking to immigrant parents –  pretending that they have not seen them.  Many discourage their children having  play dates with children (born here) of  immigrants.   They like to stick to  their white friends. However the next generation (currently at school) is used  to growing up with people from other backgrounds.  At work, if they have to  choose between a white and an immigrant, white person gets the job, even though  the immigrant has better qualifications and local experience and good command on  English.

      Commenter
      M
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:21PM
    • @ Frank – I am no racist but a believer in equality for all and feel stories  like only ever show white people as racist. Black people all over the world have  been taught to consider other races to be beneath them just in the same way  white people have been – now is the time to create an equal playing for all race  not just hammer the one race in the media as the only racists.

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      Chris
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      May 30, 2013, 5:24PM
    • Thanks Malik the Magic sheep from Perth. So I write well for a Pom? Might I  ask why you are in Perth” You sound like a Kiwi. There are many that would say  you should be in Auckland and would ask around for you and get you some ‘phone  numbers of your brethren for a big night out !!

      Commenter
      wizened and wise
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      May 30, 2013, 5:25PM
    • “A Dane, Swede and a Norwegian walk into a bar.” – racist if you think this  is a joke too?  if so, why?

      Commenter
      Am I?
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:30PM
    • @Chris – So you have problem with people not speaking English? Why point to  Lakemba immediately?

      I hope you’re not submitting yourself as an example in this article!

      Commenter
      Gerson
      Location
      Australia
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:32PM
    • Unfortunately some replies that have been posted highlight how ingrained our  racism is.  The general reaction always seems to be – “If Adam Goodes had said  this we would be laughing etc.” Fact – he didn’t. Hypothesis – he probably would  never say this.

      I think the problem is that “casual racism” does not go deep enough to  unlocking the complicated Australian psyche. It’s all wrapped up in the concept  of “mate ship”. How many of us who have been at the receiving end of “off hand”  remarks have then been given the excuse of – only joking mate, don’t take it  seriously? It’s even more complicated than this when we still think it’s funny  to call people with red hair “rangas”; the English are still Pommies.

      I still remember growing up when it was really funny to be told, in a polite  way,  put the money on the fridge wog. Those were the days when we could laugh  and laugh about or casual racism.

      Commenter
      Patricio Alvarado
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      May 30, 2013, 5:47PM
    • This is fact of life. Migrants,asians or dark people in Australia are  considered outcast. This problem is rampant & it is in each layer of  society. Specifically this has happened right from foundation of country. I  should admit one thing it is changing fast & it will improove over time.  specifically migrants from asian or religous background are facing huge  problems such not accepeted in australian society,jobs. If govt take look at  what is happening in job market,how people from asian background are denied  opportunities in resources. When some one migrate to Australia expecting better  life & job opportunities, he or she realises that you are considered second  class citizens, and denied all opportunities. Person will revolt against system.  this should not happen here. Australia is place for all their citizens &  with better respected life. Riots like Cronulla should not have happened &  people who created envirnment should be punished. Also some political parties  created this problems just to divert public opnion before election eg children  overboard, thampa issue, gay rights,muslims integration, Paulin hanson. Remember  Pauline Hanson was liberal member before. I still have hope that one day this  country will be united & all citizens feel they belong to this great  nation.

      Commenter
      Shantaram
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 6:46AM
    • ‘Geen’ we are not all racist.  Me, I am married to a Filipina lady so if I  were racist, as I am white, I wouldn’t be married to an ‘asian’.  You obviously  have not spent some time in South East Asia.  White people too are subjected to  racism everyday; on a daily basis, and every minute of the day, white people are  constantly the target of ‘rip-offs’ from taxi fares to clothing purchases.  My  most recent experience, I got a local bus (Jeepney) to the airport in the  Philippines recently.  The local price is just 20 cents, yet the driver tried to  charge me $10.  Why?  Because I am white and seen as an easy target to ‘steal’  from.  This is clearly racist. So my point, is that Australians are no more  racist that anyone else my friend.

      Commenter
      Shane F
      Location
      NSW
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 7:17AM
    • I have friends who are Chinese/Indian who can’t stand the way that their own  people behave in our society, as I often am (caucasian) in regards to other  caucasians …. guess we are racist too?

      Time some people grew some thicker skin, who really cares about the opinions  of EM? Why can’t people just accept not everything is said in malice, “I know  you didn’t mean offence by that but I didn’t appreciate your comment”, not  rocket science

      Commenter
      Gordo
      Location
      Glebe
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 7:24AM
    • Does it make it racist to think all Asian people don’t worry about personal  hygiene in so far  as not washing their hands after the toilet? Why does  Singapore install CCTV cameras in public toilets over the wash basins? Why did  bird flu start from China? and why is bird flu is connected to personal hygiene?  But having said that I know white Australians who don’t wash their hands after  the toilet and it’s not just the lower educated people, I visited an executive  bathroom once and men in $3000 suits didn’t wash their hands after the toilet.  So now I’m racist again white people! Alright I’m racist against anyone who  doesn’t wash his or her hands after the toilet!

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      Mark of Adelaide
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      May 31, 2013, 7:49AM
    • M has written the closest to the truth. Yes, we are basically racist, so are  many of the people we target, it is a human trait to denigrate others religion,  color, creed, but mostly  it is done in a harmless way, and always has been.  What has happened in the last few days is too precious by half, and will change  little, just drive it underground even further. I am often called a Irish bog  catholic by my friends (I am not Irish, but 5th Gen Australian) and I take it  with the humor  with with its intended, Australians have a wicked sense of  humor, and laugh at themselves, and others with no intention to hurt, but the  precious take it the other way.  It will never go away simply driven to private  parties and BBQs etc where it is safe to voice your opinion. The precious have  not achieved much, nor will they, not in this country. We seriously need to  lighten up.

      Commenter
      annieq
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      May 31, 2013, 8:01AM
    • We are all racists, and I am now finding there is reverse racism, where one  culture dominates particular suburbs. Try being a Caucasian single female living  in Lakemba.

      Commenter
      We’re all Racists
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 8:03AM
    • Whot a lot of crock, I live in a town with a high proportion of Dark skinned  Australians- there is NO rascism in our town because all are beaut people. We  all dislike drunks, drug addicts and people that draw attention to themselves  like the gay mardi gras,  drunken people in public, protests and thin skinned  people. This is Australia! we are what we are! We tell jokes and offend – get  over it, it will soon be an offence to sledge the Blues and their State. What  will be the point of the State of origin when NSW gets offended by the  truth.

      Commenter
      rmort
      Location
      Bowen
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 8:12AM
    • White Australians need to have a good look at themselves.

      Commenter
      Boganville
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      May 31, 2013, 8:14AM
    • @ Am I?

      Yes, because the media said so.

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      Yes, yes you are.
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      May 31, 2013, 8:25AM
    • M@ Certainly agree in regard to employment in this country. If you are from  Anglo/European background you have more chance of getting a job or promotion. A  interesting article regarding employment/hiring staff was in The Age newspaper  June 18, 2009 – “Australian bosses are racist when it’s time to hire.”  Australian National University did a study which it sent out 4000 fake job  applications to employers advertising on the internet for entry level  hospitality, data entry, customer service and sales changing only the racial  origin of the supposed applicants names. basically it found that employers  discriminated on the basis of the racial origin of applicants names and if you  had a foreeign or indigenous sounding name you have less chance of landing a job  in Australia.

      Commenter
      Joseph
      Location
      Australian Tokenism
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 8:36AM
    • Anglo Saxons will NEVER understand the pain that Adam Goodes and  multicultural Aussies feel when called racist names. As a Chinese Aussie, I was  called “slanty eyes” as a kid and that HURT! Try walking in our shoes and see  how you like this abuse. I thank Adam for taking a stand against racism. Those  Anglo Saxons who think he is overreacting should be thankful they will never  experience these racist slurs while living in Australia.

      Commenter
      @yumchaaddict
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      May 31, 2013, 8:54AM
    • Is it racist if you are paying out your own race, and joke about your own  race?

      Commenter
      reverse Obama
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      May 31, 2013, 8:56AM
    • Being called racist is not such a big deal anymore.  It has been thrown about  so freely, and it’s definition expanded (“casual racist”??) that it’s completely  lost its sting.  And reports are always showing 80% of Australians are racists –  ie it’s normal in Australia (by people of all races).

      Irreverence is core to Australian identity.  Do we crack jokes involving  race? – sure.  But we take the p1ss out of everyone – including our mates.

      Toughen up and don’t take things so seriously.

      Commenter
      NotFooled
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      May 31, 2013, 9:08AM
    • If racism is as prevalent in Australia as is often claimed, then we should  immediately stop immigration to avoid exposing foreigners to racism.

      You’ll never change the views of the vast majority of Australians, no matter  how many times to tell them to stop making jokes about different people walking  into a bar.

      Commenter
      Alicia
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      May 31, 2013, 9:16AM
    • Anyone recalls Leytteon Hewitt’s tirade “Are you SPASTIC?” against one line  judge about 10 years ago? That name calling was not against the judge’s look but  it is the reflection of the general disrespect-inconsideration and hence casual  mocking of anyone that looks and sounds different from ‘average or normal’  people.

      Commenter
      JJ
      Location
      Hornsby
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 9:18AM
    • I love reading all the comments from lefties just giddy with how morally  superior they consider themselves to be because they consider themselves amongst  the minority of Australians who are not racist. “OMG I’m just such a better  person than you!!!”

      Commenter
      Ben
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      May 31, 2013, 9:19AM
    • Chris,clearly you don’t get it. It all boils down to respect. No one should  not be denigrated for a chuckle. It’s hurtful, and why would you think it is ok  to be hurtful, whichever way it comes. Whether it be a joke about a black man  being promoted as a gorilla, or a fat person being called chunky, or a gay  person being called queer…. Get my drift. It’s not political correctness gone  mad, it’s just simple respect. Don’t say hurtful things, even if you think it’s  funny. If you have 19 people laughing at one persons expense, it’s not funny to  that one person. My 6 and 8 year old kids get it, I’m sure you can to.

      Commenter
      Denise
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      May 31, 2013, 9:44AM
    • @M, racism is not just against non-whites and immigrants can also be white!  For example, many white immigrants have come to Australia from the Mediterranean  countries of Europe. Many of these people have copped a lot of racism here in  the past and continue to do so nowadays in perhaps more subtle ways. Racism is a  rotten thing because it makes the recipient unfairly  feel bad and inferior  about themselves, their ethnicity and their culture.

      Unfortunately, racism exists in all cultures, white, coloured and Asian.

      Commenter
      donab
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      May 31, 2013, 10:14AM
    • I experienced racism when I was young, the most memorable was walking into  the local shop and being greeted with “Hello Sunshine”. Not a a friendly  greeting, but as a reference to the colour of my skin being the same colour as  Sunshine Milk Powder.

      This was a very early lesson to learn that racism goes in all directions. In  my case those with white coloured skin were in the minority and this was one of  the least offensive names we were called.

      Commenter
      DL
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 10:15AM
    • Black Australia needs to have a good look at itself.

      Commenter
      We are all human
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      May 31, 2013, 11:36AM
    • Just take a look at the structure of businesses in this country. How many of  them  have races other than white Aussies at the top of their organisations?  Very few. Compared with the general population. Racism is racism. If a child  yells out “Ding Dong Chinaman” That is racism. The fact that someone still  think in terms of colour shows that racism still lingers in the brain no matter  how you try to hide it.. call a spade a spade.. .

      Commenter
      Blokey
      Location
      Canberra
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 11:57AM
    • australia, you repulse me. Commenterthaddeus Locationstanmore Date  and timeMay 30, 2013, 5:12PM

      If Australia repulses you so much tere are plenty of other countries to live  in………

      Read more:  http://www.smh.com.au/national/are-you-a-casual-racist-20130530-2ndyy.html#ixzz2UphVYdPZ

      Commenter
      reefdog
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 12:21PM
    • @yumchaaddict And the chines population integrate and adopt other races so  easily?? (note sarcasm) I work in chinese restaurant (as a caucasian) and it  took 3.5 yeasr  to be “accepted” by the asian staff……. Whites are not the  only racists in the world every culture indoctrinates racsim into its culture  in one way or another.

      Commenter
      reefdog
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 12:26PM
  • “Institutional racism”, like setting aside jobs or places at uni for  Aboriginal people only, irrespective of their socioeconomic circumstances?  That  sort of racism?

    Commenter
    Ugghh
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:16PM
    • Ugghh has a totally valid point

      And bear in mind that this person has every incentive to emphasise what he  perceives to be racism. Otherwise he wouldn’t have a job!

      Commenter
      greenpea
      Location
      syd
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:01PM
    • @uggh – we, as a society, need to do everything we can to improve the  educational opportunities of our fellow indigenous Australians. Better education  will equip indigenous Australians to not only pursue career and business  opportunities but also give them the knowledge and confidence to stand up to  things like racism and discrimination. Racists (of all skin colours and  cultures) are just bullies and we all know how to handle bullies. Stand up to  them.

      Commenter
      Stop the rot
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      May 30, 2013, 5:06PM
    • recognising one small minority in the preamble to the constitution, that’s  racism.

      Commenter
      Ben
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:22PM
    • Unbelievable.

      Commenter
      Jace
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      May 30, 2013, 5:22PM
    • Places are set aside for indigenous students because they often have far  greater challenges in coming to the same point as many non-indigenous  Australians. This is not racism, any more than providing a pension to older  people and the disabled is favouritism.

      Now, having said that, I have to pass on my favorite attire when engaging in  casual racism. I go for a smart pair of causal pants, with a small check shirt,  coupled with an understated pair of dress shoes and a woolen blazer. One cannot  truly be a casual racist without the right casual wear.

      Commenter
      Malik the magic sheep
      Location
      Perth
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:27PM
    • Ugghh, just imagine you are a well educated, qualified but of Aboriginal or  African (to name a few) descent and you apply for a job. Do you thank you will  have an fair chance of getting the job when competing against an equally or less  qualified person of European descent? Be absolutely honest. Not even fat or ugly  white people stand the same chance.

      I am not a white apologist, just honest and realistic. I like my heritage but  know that it is no more or less superior than people who have different  heritages.

      Commenter
      Not patronising
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      May 30, 2013, 7:01PM
    • I think you need to look at the Closing the Gap reports and see just how far  behind Aboriginal people are to the rest of Australia. The reason there are  these indigenous grad programs is that these kids have an up hill battle to  begin with and we need to encourage more indigenous people to strive to improve  their life.  The number of jobs being offered are so tiny compared to the  greater maintstream intakes.  At my work place, indigenous placements for  graduates is 2% of the overall intake. 2 PERCENT!

      Now if you’re talking ‘identified positions’ these are reserved not for  Aborginal people but for anyone who can show they have an understanding of  Aboriginal culture.  The reason they exist is because the job needs certain  specialist skills due to the interaction with Aboriginal people and a cultural  understanding is a as important to that role as having a degree is to being a  doctor.

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      Peter for PM
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      May 31, 2013, 9:27AM
    • Stop the Rot & Malik, I have no problem with places being set aside for  those of any race who ate disadvantaged. Many Aboriginal people will clearly  meet that criterion. What I object to is having race-based criteria: that is  racist, pure & simple. Also a waste of taxpayers money: the Aboriginal kids  I was at Uni with had attended private schools and their parents were  professional bureaucrats. They would have attended Uni anyway. It is  misdirected.

      Commenter
      Ugh
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      May 31, 2013, 9:40AM
    • Not Patronising, you have pointed out the very problem yourself: Aboriginal  people are not the only ones needing help. But you can’t set aside places for  “anyone except Anglo”. That’s why no position should be reserved for race: we  are not South Africa under apartheid. They should be set aside for disadvantage,  not race.

      Commenter
      Ugh
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      May 31, 2013, 9:54AM
    • “‘Institutional racism’, like setting aside jobs or places at uni for  Aboriginal people only, irrespective of their socioeconomic circumstances? That  sort of racism?”

      What better example could there be the general ignorance and shallow thinking  that permeates this issue. The annoymous author displays zero comprehension of  what it has been and is to be an Aboriginal in Australia. If the author had any  historical knowledge then they might comprehend why affirmitive action is  required to overcome a history and culture of unfair discrimination, injustice  and exclusion.

      Here’s a starting point for “Ugghh” – how the new nation of Australia  regarded its indigenous population.

      “An Aborigine is not as intelligent as a Maori. There is no scientific  evidence that he is a human being at all.” King O’Malley, House of  Representatives 1902.

      This statement was made during a debate in the first Australian Federal  parliament that resulted in the indigenous people of New Zealand given the right  to vote in Australian federal elections, but not the the indigenous people of  Australia.

      A study of the ‘protection’ acts than operated for two thirds of the 20th  century and treated adult men and women as ‘wards of the state’ because of the  colour of their skin, might further enlighten “Ugghh”.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 10:29AM
    • Peter for PM, as Aboriginal people make up 2% of the population, isn’t that  the appropriate percentage? Sadly, there are no places also set aside for poor  white kids with crap parents, or refugee kids etc.. That’s why places set aside  should be on the basis of disadvantage, not race. Or do you seriously suggest  one race should be actively preferred, by setting aside more than 2% of places?  Other Australians have had it tough too, here and overseas.

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      Ugh
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      May 31, 2013, 12:27PM
  • Fact is by these criteria we’re ALL racist. Question is you dislike/hate  another racial group because of their skin colour or culture and do you take  active steps to avoid or belittle them. Big difference…………..

    Commenter
    Magnus
    Location
    Abbotsford
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:16PM
    • Agreed. To me blatantly untrue, intentionally hurtful racism is one thing,  and is definitely unacceptable.

      But I’m really not comfortable with the idea that I can never say anything  that a single person might possibly find offensive. Theres a big difference  between a joke that relies on a presumption that “all of x race are stupid and  smelly”, and telling a joke that gently teases someones accent for example. I’m  quite happy for others to crack jokes related to my race. (And I realise that   I’m part of the racial majority in this country and the effect might be  different for someone in the minority).

      I think we need to be a bit more measured – behaviour thats unreasonably  offensive, or repeated and frequent, designed to hurt someone shouldn’t be  allowed. It makes it more of a grey area and harder to police, but better than  everyone acting like robots. Just use your judgement and act with a little  courtesy people.

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      Rob
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      May 30, 2013, 5:16PM
    • Yes. How many countries are less racist than Australia? All countries are  racist by this criteria. 99% of people are racist by this criteria. Does the  word “racist” have any meaning if we think of it like this? Then what do you  call the KKK and National Front?

      We all know that blacks were terribly oppressed by whites for a long time in  Australia and elsewhere. Differences between us which would have be okay to joke  about if blacks and whites had had an equal and collegiate relationship. So  there is legitimate cause for grievance – but there’s also a lot of Wooden Leg  being played.

      If you don’t know what that means, try Googling … transactional analysis  wooden leg.

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      Ecks Why Zed
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      May 31, 2013, 7:19AM
    • oh we the white people should lie down and get trampled upon, for we are the  only racist people in this country….We must feel sorry for all the immigrants  who prefer there own race and congragrate with them, because to consider that to  be racist would just be unfair as we only need blame the white person…..dam  white man the worst…he sexist and racist

      stop judging and making hype…go to these other countries and see how you  fair in their home country…..then we will see who is more racist.

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      DJM
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      May 31, 2013, 10:15AM
  • An Australian, amd Irishman and a South African may well be of the same  race.

    What the young teenager said was rude and insulting, not necessarily  “racist”.  I get a bick sick of the “racist under every bed” mentality.  I know  that many people are very insensitive to people in many ways, but the attitude  that wants to see racism in even the most benign remarks is likely to make  thinking people immune to seeing real ethnic and racial denigration.

    Commenter
    David Morrison
    Location
    Blue Mountains
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:17PM
    • We once had two New Zealand boys staying with us and one asked at the  table,”Mr Morrison, may we tell some Australian jokes”.  Of course I said “Yes”.  Most were funny and we enjoyed them as much as they did.  To say that the jokes  were racist or derogatory would be first-class absurdity.

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      David Morrison
      Location
      Blue Mountains
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 4:57PM
    • I get what you’re saying, and it would be a shame if we can’t all laugh at  ourselves. But I think that until equality has been achieved among all races,  some jokes will continue to be too insensitive for the times.

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      Jaded
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      May 30, 2013, 5:13PM
    • David – Australian is not a race (except, maybe, a race to the bottom…)

      Commenter
      Peter
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      Sydney
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      May 30, 2013, 5:18PM
    • Peter, then Adam Goodes has nothing to worry about then!

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      dolly
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      May 31, 2013, 7:24AM
    • I didn’t imply that Australian is a race.  My first sentence makes it clear  that I don’t believe that.

      My point was that if the three people mentioned happen to be of the same  race, which they well may be, the joke could not be racist.

      It actually seems to me that the word “racist” has been so broadened and  watered-down that it has become almost meaningless.

      I heard a woman say this morning that if she simply thinks she doesn’t like a  woman’s face to be completely covered she is being racist in her mind.  That is  how the issue becomes absurd.  I fear that real denigration and insult will  increase as intolerant people see the silly supposedly anti-racist things that  are being said.

      Putting the comments of a rude little girl on the front pages and making much  of her “racism” simply inflames the situation.

      Commenter
      David Morrison
      Location
      Blue Mountains
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 10:23AM
    • How offensive the word ‘ape’ is to an Aboriginal or ‘non-white’ person has  been covered – a lttle research on the the internet will enlighten you. ( For  starters, try searching for ‘King O’Malley – Aborigines – human beings’)

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 10:39AM
    • Putting the comments of a rude little girl on the front pages and making much  of her “racism” simply inflames the situation.

      David, it also raises awareness of the problem of racism. Racism is an issue  that requires constant vigilance, which ever way the racism is directed whether  that be black, white Asian,  Indian, Arab or whatever. There is no relief if you  belong to a marginalised group, whether that be racial, ethnic, religious or  sexuality, so we all need to be constantly vigilant, to do anything less is  simply lazy and/or ignorant.

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      Vigilant
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      May 31, 2013, 12:19PM
  • Discrimination is in the eye of the beholder.

    I am periodically subject to taunting jests because of some personal features  (white, middle aged, overweight, bald Christan male). Is that sexist, racist,  ageist or religious etc discrimination? I think not.

    I think its time we all took a Ruddite cold shower.

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    dave 51
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    May 30, 2013, 4:21PM
    • not to mention what us blondes have to endure. can we all stand up and claim  racism?

      Commenter
      rp
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      rp
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      May 30, 2013, 5:23PM
    • Hair colourism.

      For bald people, hair coveragism.

      For me, thin hair greyism.

      Commenter
      David Morrison
      Location
      Blue Mountains
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 11:07AM
  • So 67% of respondents so far think they are a casual racist. Does this bother  anybody else? I hate to say it but Australia is a racist nation. My high school,  which was situated in one of the most culturally dynamic areas of the country,  was segregated by race. This caused school-yard brawls for no apparent reason  but upon reflection look totally ugly given that “sides” were dictated by race  rather than ‘merit’ or cause (i.e. it wasn’t vegans vs meat eaters).

    Commenter
    Hater
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:22PM
    • Are you actually telling me that say Asian folk do not naturally ALSO  congregate together in groups. They certainly do for the most part once they  leave school.

      Are you expecting me to be all lovey, dovey over say a group of muslims, who  also congregate within the religion by race (or sub-form of religion) when I  just can’t stand the falsity of religion in the first place.

      Are you expecting us all not to complain say about different standards of  cleanliness, when folks from poor countries have a lesser standard than me.

      Sorry, I’m going to be human not a mindless follower of whatever local social  memes are the majority.

      Commenter
      jimhaz
      Location
      Occupy Cronyist Governments
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      May 30, 2013, 5:02PM
    • Hater, that’s caused by multiculturalism.

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      dolly
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      May 31, 2013, 7:26AM
    • It wasn’t segregated by the management though was it? It was segregated by  the students themselves. That doesn’t mean institutional racism! Its what kids  do when the whole school is rough and there’s probably too many kids there (i.e.  most schools in Aust).

      I went to maroubra bay which was a ordinary public and its natural to be  denegrated for whatever the nearest bully could pick up from you. I was called a  “jewball” by idiots who saw me come out of scripture class. It was said with  narrow eyed hatred. What they probably meant was “jewboy”, but the instinct to  put other kids down is so strong that the actual reason for bullying you is  irrelevant, its just a label they can grab to hit you with. Thats why there’s  racism in schools, its nothing more than bullying.

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      Bullsh
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      May 31, 2013, 7:42AM
  • Is that a racist that wears jeans?

    Commenter
    Brad
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    Sydney
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    May 30, 2013, 4:23PM
  • this is getting beyond a joke…. is the racist person; a) the person  the finds these jokes funny, but socialises among a ground of different races  etc and would give a black man CPR without a second thought or…. b) a  person who is sanctimonious behind a keyboard, pointing fingers, but would  squirm uncomfortably if a black person with tattoos sat next to them on a  bus…..

    This is all beyond a joke…..

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    joke
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    May 30, 2013, 4:23PM
    • All this is code-word for Anti-White.

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      Lord
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      May 31, 2013, 10:13AM
  • I’ve lived in more countries than most people and I can tell you that no race  is immune from telling, or being the butt of, jokes.  Most of them are told, and  accepted in the spirit intended.

    By the way, Is it okay to laugh if an Irishman or an American tells a joke  concerning his race, or are they being racist, too?

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    RobW
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    May 30, 2013, 4:23PM
    • When I worked for a short time in New Zealand in 1980 I was invited to a  weekend lunch with some of my work colleagues and their families. Around a table  drinking beer out of 750 ml bottles I good humouredly sat through a tirade of  bad jokes about Australians, but when it came my turn to tell a New Zealand joke  the mood changed and the room went deathly silent. They couldn’t take what they  had been dishing out.

      There is nothing wrong with a bit of banter and teasing but the point is a  lot of people lack empathy. They cannot put themselves in the shoes of the  person who is the butt of the joke and they themselves get offended if they  become the subject of a joke. I believe a lot of the people who admit to being  casual racists fall into this category. I wonder how many laughed when Robin  Williams referred to Australians as English rednecks?

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      Jezz
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      May 31, 2013, 10:25AM
  • It’s pretty worrying that half of everyone who answered the poll has said  they won’t change. It may be hard to put yourself in someone else’s shoes but  our culture really has to change. Pretty much everyone in the world wants the  same thing – love, security, happy kids, enough food and someone with whom to  share their life. It is an element of our humanity that just never goes away and  we see the effects it has on people when they don’t get these things. If you are  willing to put aside the way you think world is meant to be, and start talking  to other people who look at their world and their place in it differently, I  think you’ll find you’ll have more in common with them than not.

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    Um
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    May 30, 2013, 4:23PM
  • What if there are people who call ‘Wayne Rooney’ or ‘George Bush’ an Ape? Is  that racism too?

    My point is some words when used in certainly context, it isn’t racism, but  nevertheless derogatory intent.

    Of course if you judged someone derogatorily based on the color of their  skin/nationality, it is absolutely racism.

    But there are also people whom are self-deprecating by making fun of their  own race, i’m not sure what’s that call, maybe according to dictionary, it is  also racism.

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    Gerson
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:26PM
    • It would seem that white men are not able to be apes or act like apes. If  we were to believe the result of recent events then being an ape is solely the  domin of black men.

      Commenter
      Mr. C
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:20PM
  • This whole tawdry affair has passed the point of reason and is becoming more  a media beat-up as the days go by.  Eddie McGuire was wrong.  He knows it, we  all know it.  The thirteen year old girl wasn’t prompted by racism.  She knows  it and everybody else knows it, save for the police involved, the AFL and Adam  Goodes, judging from his comment about the face of racism on the day after the  game.  If Goodes feels threatened by a thirteen year old girl, he needs to be  super careful on the football pitch where there are much more dangerous types  ready to break him in half.  Can we just say enough and move on.  Please!

    PS:  Megan, I know you know better.  Last time I checked, being Irish,  Australian or South African didn’t define race.  So I’ll continue my chuckle  guilt free.

    Commenter
    Aussie Rog
    Location
    NSW
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:26PM
    • Well said!

      Commenter
      single mum
      Location
      sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 8:17AM
  • An Australian, an Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.

    Sorry to say this but those are not races. I know that some people may see  this as splitting hairs but I am quite comfortable with those jokes. Would it  infer race (Chinese) or explicitly name a race then I would not be at all  comfortable with this.

    I would also hasten to add that I would also be comfortable with something  along religious lines – a catholic, a muslim and an atheist walked into a bar.  People are religious (or not) by choice whereas you cannot change your race. We  must allow criticism either directly or indirectly (e.g. humour) in such cases  and it would be wrong to claim as has been done in the past that criticising  Islam is racism. I use Islam because it is common to have negative comments  about Islam to be racist, I am happy to say that I am equally critical of all  major religions 🙂

    Commenter
    paul
    Location
    Narrabeen
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:28PM
    • You’re denying me the right to actually HAVE a race now?

      Hate to break it to you, but Australian is most definitely a race!

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      David
      Location
      (apparently no where)
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:26PM
    • David, you’re nationality is Australian, your race is either Caucasian  (European), Asian (including the sub-continent), African, Indigenous Australian,  Indigenous North American, Indigenous South American, or Middle Eastern,  depending on where your forebears came from when they migrated here.   Your  nationality is not your race.

      Commenter
      Michelle
      Location
      Castle Hill
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 7:16AM
    • David, being Australian is not a race. Australians are many races.

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      dolly
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      May 31, 2013, 8:07AM
  • What is racism to me? Comments such as: “…Australia is very casual with  racism..” Labelling a whole country of people with sweeping statements  instead of individualising, is the very definition of racism, and it is  offensive!!! O’Brien is a racist and should be made to apologise by the  Collingwood Football Club for his comments.

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    Pip
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:29PM
    • Another revealing comment of the prevailing ingnorance with absolutely no  comprehension as to what is to be ridiculed, excluded and to made to feel of  less worth because of the colour of your skin.  Calling O’Brien a “racist”  typifies the type of thinking whereby members of the dominant group try and  diminish the concerns of oppressed minorites by claiming that they too are  ‘discriminated’ against. What drivel!

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 10:56AM
    • Its peopleist to call everybody something. FFS everybody is different. This  is the whole point. If you said everybody in this country must be treated  exactly the same we have a place where everybody is also expected to perform the  same i.e. no breaks for prayers, no days off cos of cultural reasons, no  different food eaten, blah blah a nation of robots. BUT WE AREN’T A NATION OF  ROBOTS cos this is Australia where people are bloody individuals. And thats how  it should be. Some of these individuals are “casual racists” (according to your  criteria, which i disagree with but i won’t go into that) but that is NOT the  same as actual racists.

      Also i am thinking that the Adam Goodes racism issue, should have been left  at that. Everybody learned something that day – i never knew that word was  especially offensive to aboriginal people, not especially. I can see that now,  and so can all AFL supporters. However Eddie McG’s idiotic remark has  totally overshadowed the useful lesson learned and snowballed into a natural  disaster cos he is a media personality and there’s knives out. Its a damn shame  it has become “who can sack him faster and rub salt into his wounds”.Cos thats  NOT what this whole thing should be about.

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      Spender
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      May 31, 2013, 12:11PM
    • I certainly disagree Mr Rogers. I don’t believe Harry O’Brien should be  treated any differently because of the colour of his skin, I don’t believe he  should be treated like an opressed minority, he should be treated solely based  on the value of his character. If people stop thinking of people in groups of  people; dominant groups, oppressed groups, minority groups, the world will be a  much better place.

      Commenter
      Pip
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 12:38PM
  • My favorite joke was told to me by a Scotsman and goes like this: A Scotsman  wanted desperately to become an Englishman, but was told this would involve a  risky operation to remove 10% of his brain. Undeterred he went ahead, but upon  awakening after the op. was greeted by a distraught surgeon who tearfully told  him that instead of removing 10% of his brain and leaving 90% intact, 90% had  been inadvertently removed. The Scotsman grinned, stuck his thumb up and  replied “She’ll be right mate” I am Australian. My mate is Scottish. Are we  both racist?

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    paddlerpop
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    May 30, 2013, 4:29PM
    • Made me laugh!

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      Pieman
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      May 30, 2013, 5:10PM
    • What is failed to be understood in the telling of ‘jokes’ is that the status  of an individual or group at the butt of the ‘jokes’ is crucial. Jokes amongst a  like or dominant group in society are a very different thing to jokes made at  the expense of members of the society who are regarded by the joke tellers as  ‘others’, deserving exclusion.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 11:07AM
  • “For example, in setting public policy, the structure of a particular program  might work for 80 per cent of the population, but because the circumstances of  Aboriginal people or people from migrant communities don’t fit the profile that  was used to create the program, their access is limited,” Professor Houston  said.”

    A good example of this are the fact that Christian celebrations such as  Christmas and Easter are public holidays whilst if I want to take a day off for  Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashana I need to use my annual leave.  That is  discrimination against non christians

    Read more:  http://www.theage.com.au/national/are-you-a-casual-racist-20130530-2ndyy.html#ixzz2Ukrsf8em

    Commenter
    Imste2
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:30PM
    • It’s a CHRISTIAN country!

      Commenter
      Lisa
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 11:24AM
  • I feel racism yet I don’t think I am racist, All black people are fast  runners & have great potential to be excellent athletes. All Jewish  people are tight with money. All Lebanese people will never accept the first  price. All Italians make tomato sauce in their backyard. All fat people  are lazy. All Aboriginal people live in the dream time. All people from  New Zealand are good blokes like a laugh & work hard. All people from  South Africa have aggressive tone when they speak. All people from Cronulla  are drongos. I don’t tell everyone that my thoughts are true, I don’t force  my thoughts on others. These are just my thoughts. Because every person I met  from these walks of life possess this characteristic. Yet I constantly try to  treat each new individual as just that an individual. Yet it is nearly  impossible to do so. If people say Australia is racist than this in itself is a  racist comment. I am not sure being a casual racist is a bad thing. If I went  for a job in Anywhere else in the world my potential employer will be thinking  of other Australians he was worked with, or know on a social level, if they were  unreliable & unfaithful this would negatively affect my chances of  employment, & I think rightfully so. I am representing Australia &  Australian values when I go overseas for work, I try to do good by all. This  might pave the way for the boss to give an Australian ago moving forward. If we  had a bad reputation, it might take a generation to change but it would take a  generation. Happy to try.

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    bbb
    Location
    SYD
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:30PM
    • You racist!

      Now excuse me while I go back to my nonna’s basement and start peeling the  tomatoes to get ready to make the sauce.

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      af612
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      May 31, 2013, 9:05AM
  • Great article. I know I’ve been making a conscious effort not to laugh at  these kinds of jokes or any jokes where someone is the butt  of it (unless  laughing at myself of course). I don’t verbalise any racial jokes but  occasionally they do cross my mind. I’m a work in progress.

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    Ame
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    May 30, 2013, 4:31PM
    • Hmm, so racist jokes are out because someone is the butt of them.  I guess  jokes about stupid people are out, because that would be discrimination.  Jokes  about women?  Hoo boy, you had better believe that *they* are out.  Fat people?   Nope.  Short people?  Nope.  Dogs?  Nope, not funny.  Animals have feelings and  rights?  Jokes about cancer?  That’s not funny, man.  Genocide?  Are you  crazy?

      Basically you are left with self-deprecating humour, but really, you should  learn to love yourself and not put yourself down.

      Humour is now cancelled due to people being offended.  To quote Stephen Fry  (profanity removed so as not to offend):

      “It’s now very common to hear people say, ‘I’m rather offended by that.’ As  if that gives them certain rights. It’s actually nothing more… than a whine.  ‘I find that offensive.’ It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason  to be respected as a phrase. ‘I am offended by that.’ Well, so f&#king  what.”

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      Mr Wowtrousers
      Location
      ACT
      Date and time
      May 30, 2013, 5:20PM
  • So we can’t even laugh at one another now? It’s this sort of extremist  thinking which causes increased violence in societies. Large gatherings of  humans in towns and cities will invariably have tensions between groups which  need an outlet. Humour and mockery is one way in which this is managed, and  allow different groups of people to co-habitate together in a largely peaceful  environment. Repressing this sort of humour will only end up causing people to  gravitate towards more extremist hate groups, and the outlet of their  frustrations will spill over into increased violence…

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    Mr. Man
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    May 30, 2013, 4:31PM
  • Come on world, get real. Accept the fact that we (society), if not all, are  racist. Just watch the comedians on TV and see & hear the audience clap & cheer on racial jokes. And also, don’t forget the violence….Please do  not suggest we are not a violent country. “Monkey see, Monkey do”.

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    Ajax
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    May 30, 2013, 4:32PM
  • I called an Aboriginal man black once. Am I a casual racist? If I am black  too, am I still racist? Truth is, my grandfather is an orphan. His mother  gave him up as he was born out of wedlock to an ‘unacceptable’ person. Now, that  may have been a farmhand or a person already married. One of the possible  fathers (there were three possibilities) is Aboriginal. My grandfather has very  dark skin and hair, but has worked the land all his life, so it may not be  completely genetic. I am also darker skinned than a European, but not as dark as  most Aboriginals. By calling an Aboriginal black, when I may be so myself, am  I racist? I’d like to hear of a country that is less racist than Australia.  People from any background can get work, get elected and own their own home.  They can enjoy their own culture in our country without any government  intervention. Try doing that in China, Nigeria, Spain, Brasil or the like. The  only nation I’ve been to that approaches Australia’s level of racial harmony is  India, where there were racist words, but I was treated well and welcomed  warmly. Just because someone is offended, does not make the other person  offensive.

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    Quandry?
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    May 30, 2013, 4:33PM
    • +1

      Commenter
      Magnus
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      Abbotsford
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      May 30, 2013, 5:05PM
  • There is a huge difference between a light hearted and so called racist joke  and someone who goes out of their way to discriminate, hate and vilify other  races.  I feel people who accept other races and cultures are the ones who joke  about them, so is that racist?  Either way there’s always whingers and that is  what is ruining this country.

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    Radley
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    May 30, 2013, 4:33PM
    • Egg-zackerly!

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      RobW
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      May 30, 2013, 5:16PM
    • How ironic,  a ‘whinger’ critcising ‘whingers’.  A ‘whinger’ who shares the  general ignorance that jokes among like or dominant societal groups are very  different to jokes made at the expense of those regarded as ‘others’.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 11:13AM
  • I wrote a long descriptive reason as to why we shouldn’t care so much about  casual racism if it’s all jesting etc.. but nobody would read something that  long. So here’s the jist of it; It’s a joke, get over it.

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    bahaha
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    May 30, 2013, 4:33PM
  • I find it odd that we go bananas over calling a man an ape, but are not  fussed about bombing Baghdad, targetting Indigenous people for income management  and other restrictions, or incarcerating Sri Lankans on a hot, barren rock, in  tents.

    All these things are racist

    Commenter
    Steve Levy
    Location
    Balaclava
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:34PM
    • None of them are racist………..you require some education on what racism  is.

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      dolly
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  • I’m confused still on what makes one a casual racist. I used to like Chinese  food but have gone off it now and have a preference for Korean/Thai cuisine. I  am hairy all over and get the monkey tag slapped on me all the time – are those  people racist or are they just stating a fact that “I’m as hairy as a monkey”.  I think people should lighten up a bit and accept there are in  context  scenarios that need to be evaluated first before screaming racist. Humans  are a racist lot – I sure it works both ways depending on who are the dominated  race. in each environment.

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    MC
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    May 30, 2013, 4:35PM
  • It sounds like PC taken a step too far. If I laugh at Dave Chappelle’s racial  humour, does that make me a racist as well? Saying something with the intent to  insult is not on, but having a bit of a laugh about stereotypes is fine… I am  the first one to laugh at Chappelle’s jokes about us crackers.

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    cffndncr
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    May 30, 2013, 4:35PM
    • “t sounds like PC taken a step too far. If I laugh at Dave Chappelle’s racial  humour, does that make me a racist as well? Saying something with the intent to  insult is not on, but having a bit of a laugh about stereotypes is fine… I am  the first one to laugh at Chappelle’s jokes about us crackers.” The  difference between jokes directed at the dominant group in society from either  members of that group or from outsiders are jokes against the powerful. Very  different to jokes made by the dominant group at the expense of those regarded  as ‘others’ without power and not worthy of inclusion. Chappelle’s jokes as a  member of the same group he is satirising are not the same as a member of the  dominant group ridiculing those perceived to be below in the ‘pecking  order’.

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      Michael Rogers
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  • Blonde jokes?

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    Amy
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    • Given that Megan originally thought Australians, South Africans and Irish  defined race I think she may be dying her hair…. 🙂

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      John11
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  • The Chinese man and the Indian get into a violent, racist argument about the  disputed border region of Aksai Chin. The Australian looks on at the wonder or  multiculturalism

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    Malik the magic sheep
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    May 30, 2013, 4:36PM
  • Racism?    It’s the Ostrayen way!

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    TommyP
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  • Funny how I grew up having to put up with this sort of treatment not only  from the average aussie but also the indigenous people and got labelled as a  weak WOG but its also funny how it only the indigenous that get media coverage  for a term like what Eddie has said, although I dont tolerate it these people  especially Adam Goodes should grow a set and get on with his life, it should be  like water on a ducks back oops is that racist, Sorry

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    WOG
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    May 30, 2013, 4:36PM
    • I agree WOG. Time for Goodes to take a dose of cement and harden up.

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      dolly
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    • To ‘dolly’.

      What a sheltered existence you must have had to not begin to realise what  calling an Aboriginal or .’non-white’ person an ‘ape’ means.

      Here is a little historical background for you.

      “An Aborigine is not as intelligent as a Maori. There is no scientific  evidence that he is a human being at all.” King O’Malley, House of  Representatives 1902.

      This statement was made during a debate in the first Australian Federal  parliament that resulted in the indigenous people of New Zealand given the right  to vote in Australian federal elections, but not the the indigenous people of  Australia.

      The thinking that Australia’s indigenous people were ‘sub-human’ – closer to  apes has a long history. You might like to get yourself up to speed on this by  reading this article. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4722082.html

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      Michael Rogers
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  • As the 11 year old son of a whinging Pommie Bastard in Geelong in the 1950s I  learned some hard lessons. That I was a whinger was a given ( did England really  win World War 2 ?) until they saw just how tough I was on the footy field and  elsewhere. But that I was one of the great stinking unwashed who showered once a  year and was distinctly a third class citizen somewhere around the equivalent of  a Dago dug a little deeper. Yet I transcended every last syllable of it. I  suppose I recalled the hoary cliche “sticks and stones may break my bones but  words will never hurt me” and I lived by this. More than a decade ago when NSW  Police Commissioner Ryan challenged corruption in the force hundreds of police  gathered in MacQuarie Street in Sydney screaming “go home you Pommie  bastard”….Had it been go home ” you slanty eyed bastard” all hell would have  let loose. But Pommie is ok. Really? It depends on the connection the listener  makes NOT the utterer. I dislike the term intensely and particularly when an  Australian cricketer with an IQ somewhere south of 50 proffers it. I loved the  Oz cricket team of yesteryear who carried there winning ways with dignity and  humility. Not so for a long time. And I lament this as I do all uncaring insults  cast about not among the swine but by the swine. I’ve lived in Africa, South  America, ( Rio de Janeiro..hello Harry) and the Middle East. There is no “more  joyous” thing than to live a life without the slightest prejudice. And I  have.

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    wizened and wise
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    May 30, 2013, 4:36PM
    • Very well written… for a Pom.

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      Malik the magic sheep
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      May 30, 2013, 5:03PM
    • Bugger, Malik. I read your reply and smiled. Oh so casually racist it  seems.

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      Rusty
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    • From the words of the oracle, Paul Hogan, POM stands for “preferred old  mate”, so it’s all good.

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      Davo
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      Sydney
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      May 30, 2013, 5:31PM
    • Spot on! as a son of migrant parents from Greece, it was ok to call someone a  wog and it still is, but there are apparently some cultures you shouldn’t make  racist comments about. it is safe to say most nationalities have put up with  their fair share of pain and suffering (400 years of Turkish rule)

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      tass
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    • The golden rule of racism is that it is not ok if said by an anglo-saxon but  ok if said about an anglo-saxon.

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      dolly
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    • @davo  ….  or it could stand for “poor on manners” (POM) .. for the endless  supply of whingers that have been sent to all corners of the earth from our  (former) beloved mother country ! As old Sir Les Patterson liked to say after a  hard night out … ” I’m as full as a pommie complaint box “.

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      prisoner of mother england
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      May 31, 2013, 11:03AM
    • Again no comprehension of what it has meant and still means to be an  Aboriginal in Australia. To suggest that being called a ‘pommy bastard’ is any  way comparable to the way the indigenous people of Australia have been and  continue to be treated is fatuous nonsense.

      And no,  England/Britain didn’t ‘win the war’. World War II was the United  States’ roundabout way of eliminating the British Empire as a competitor for  world trade and financial dominance.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 11:51AM
  • What the young girl and Eddie said were not ‘casual’ racism. It was racist.  But it is just stupid to think that laughing at an Irishman – or an Irishman  laughing at an Australian joke is racism. Name me a country that is not  ‘racist’. Go to Japan, China, the Middle East – even dark skinned Brazilians  have their own prejudices against different groups. It is hard wired into the  human brain to see different people as different. We all need to ensure that  society does not accept racism. If one of my non Anglo Saxon mates calls me a  dumb skippy I don’t get bothered. Racism is racism – a joke is joke.

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    TP
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    Sydney
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    May 30, 2013, 4:37PM
    • iF YOU THIN “APE” REFERS TO SOMEONE WHO IS BLACK …THEN CLEARLY IT IS YOU  WHO IS THE RACIST

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      Josemerrick
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    • Michael Rogers you demonstrate so aptly how people like you are so much part  of the problem. You may have read my remarks about being called a Pommie bastard  but totally failed to comprehend them. Nowhere did I seek to make any comparison  at all to indigenous Australians. I simply observed that these sort of insults  have been around for years and I have been subjected to them and I have  necessarily transcended them. I say necessarily because people like you seem  unable to grasp the fact racism is not some sort of competition in comparative  analysis. It is all abhorrent and the sooner people grasp this the better.

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      wizened and wise
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      May 31, 2013, 12:21PM
  • “But he said if one person was offended by a joke, it was racist. “People  need to understand that it’s not okay to laugh at other people or to  discriminate against other people just because they are different and they are  in a minority,” he said.”

    Yes and I’m sure the minority never joke about the majority. Right?

    Hey, what happens if a minority makes a joke about another minority? And as a  memberof the second minority, I laughed at the joke? Does that make me a closet  self-hating racist?

    What if the majority of people are racist? Does that mean they can’t tell  jokes about the non-racist people? What if the non-racist told a joke about  racists? Would that suddenly make them a racist too?

    GARRR!!!!

    /head explodes

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    OX
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    • I’m with you, OX.  Here in the great land of Oz we are very good at taking  the mickey out of each other, regardless of “race” – but nowadays some people  seem to want to take offence at any innocent joke if there’s some obscure way  that it could be taken as racist.

      Personally, I don’t even believe the concept of “race” – we’re all the same  species, for Pete’s sake!  There are cultural differences, sure, but in terms of  upbringing, personality, sense of humour etc I’m different to the bloke next  door – but we get along fine.  If only we could all just forget the term “race”  and learn to enjoy making fun of each other, the world would be a nicer  place.

      And just for the record, Adam Goodes has a hairy face. It does make him look  a bit “apish” – but that’s nothing to do with his so-called “race”, it’s just  the way his beard grows.  We have a white Australian in our office who looks a  lot like him, actually.

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      SteveC
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      May 30, 2013, 5:40PM
  • We are allowed to generalize on age (young people know nothing), gender (men  are lazy), occupation (Lawyers are evil), but as soon as you do it about race it  has all of a sudden crossed a line, its ridiculous. Also why does the racism  argument seem to be so one directional? Its always depicted in the media as non  Anglos as the victims and Anglos as the perpetrators, it does happen both ways  you know. The names Aborigines use for white people are massively offensive, but  I don’t get upset because its just name calling at the end of the day.

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    DanielGladesville
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    May 30, 2013, 4:38PM
    • Generalising is not the same as discriminating.  It’s not okay to  discriminate according to age and sex.  Cliches with occupations are silly, but  you choose/change your occupation, you can’t choose your age, race or sex (the  last one you can but it’s fairly drastic).

      I’ve said this in numerous comments today.  It’s context.  It’s not okay for  Aboriginals to call Anglos names either.  But it’s worse when a white person  does it due to the history of subjugation they’ve gone through under European  rule.

      It’s easy to laugh it off when you’re not in a minority.  I’m chinese and my  cousin married a white man.  Their boy looks caucasion and goes to school in  Hong Kong.  Some of the abuse he’s told me he’s copped at school seemed mild to  me like stupid whitey, gweilow (stupid foreigner) and yes believe it or not  gorilla (poor kid is pretty hairy).  I assure you he doesn’t find them funny.   When you feel oppressed, ostracized and victimised it’s not that easy to just  brush it off as name calling

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  • I find that it really depends on the opposite person. While some can tolerate  jokes like that, others can only view them as insults. As much as I make fun of  myself and friends around me, they do make jokes on me as well. As such they  understand my bottom line as I to them. I have always said that there is a fine  difference between a friendly jab and an insult, the same applies to the title  joke of this article to say nuggeting a friend’s schoolbag.

    In saying that, if you know the other person and you go beyond his or her  tolerance, then you are just racist. This can also apply to people you do not  know. Jokes like these can only be said to those you know well enough, not  beyond. Of course, this is my opinion and some may think different. But a world  without jokes and friendly pranks…not so much fun.

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    Pomato
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  • I think a lot is ignorance. Some people haven’t experienced other cultures or  people from other countries. For example, this week I went to a conference where  one of the (Australian) speakers referred to a particular system as being  designed by “the Yanks”. The Americans that were there were not particularly  impressed! Especially as they were from the southern States. Knowledge of the  American Civil War would lead one to understand why they were annoyed.  Australians may refer to themselves as Aussies, so its fair to call them  Aussies. People from NZ may refer to themselves as Kiwis, so again I guess  that’s fair. But the Chinese aren’t chinks, English aren’t Poms, Irish aren’t  Micks and Americans don’t refer to themselves as Yanks. Every Nation has people  who still refer to other countries by nicknames that the recipients didn’t give  to themselves. But a lot were given in the first half of last century. People  need to get with the times. Its a casual attitude that gets passed down the  generations. Its time to grow up and educate ourselves.

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    Ignorance isn’t bliss
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  • Political correctness gone mad.

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    Josie Ng
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    • Worse – political correctness at all. Shouldn’t exist. When people realise  (in reality, REMEMBER) that we ARE in fact all different, the world will work  far smoother and each race will be able to achieve their greater potential,  unhindered by a cabal of people looking to control the world.

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      Lord
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  • So as soon as Eddie McGuire does it, racism is socialised?

    Didn’t seem to be the case with the 13 yr old girl.  Both instances  disgraceful.

    And there was no joke in either comment.

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    Barney
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  • I had an experience recently where a Barbie guest decided to test attitudes  by telling a joke aimed at demeaning indigenous people. Rather than getting  aggressive, which I might have done in the past, I commented that the local  barber had told me the same joke and that I had not gone back since. I have  travelled and worked in most Australian states and an confirm that racist  attitudes are alive and well in many places but very rare in their nastier forms  in Melbourne. The casual kind is still alive unfortunately.

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    hammertime
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    May 30, 2013, 4:41PM
  • We’ll know racism is finally beaten when we can say to a man like Goodesy  “Ah, ya big ape!” and the statement carries no more connotation than it does  when someone calls Jason Dunstall a big Silverback – or when we can call a guy  like Andrew Krakouer “The Black Wizard” and there is NO baggage attached –  “Black” being nothing more than a reference to him being particularly  dark-skinned and “Wizard” referring to freakishly good football skills.

    We are obviously not there yet.  Attitudes toward, and treatment of  aboriginals in this country have been so abhorrent for so long and only begun to  change so recently that their wounds are still deep and painful.  Us white guys  do not have the right to even try to be lighthearted about jokes around skin  colour or heritage with those guys because we (as a group if not individually)  have a history of being so very cruel to them based on exactly that – skin  colour and heritage.  Until we have healed the hurt caused by that, sensitivity  and basic human respect would dictate we be careful to avoid such comments.

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    Andyroo
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    May 30, 2013, 4:43PM
    • It sounds like you are suggesting that the difference is that certain people  need to “harden up”. I agree!

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      dolly
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    • But I was born in Ireland, so have had nothing to do with indigenous  oppression. Am I allowed to make light-hearted jokes?

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      Sydney Subby
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  • Wow lets make it easy never ever talk to anyone, this rubbish offends me  ,also looks like many people I have met from all over the world and some native  Australians are racist too as have been told jokes about others and themselves  by those same people in a friendly manner and have shared some too, these  accusations of racism will cause people to become so in their defense, you may  call me a white Aussie bstrd I don’t care love all the happy and good people who  mix with others dont like all the cry baby’s including the professor

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    Robo 1955
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    • I have a laymen test for racism instead of some lengthy psychological  assessment, when a car broke down and you found that person belong to a certain  ethnic group, would you not help them?

      Honestly, if you do help then occasional chuckles on their image (which all  the lifestyle article does anyway) shouldn’t be a big deal. Seriously we all  have a laugh at other including ourselves sometimes.

      However, real racist will certainly not help them. I have yet to experience  those kind of treatments in this country.

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      Tolerant Ethnic
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      May 30, 2013, 5:19PM
  • “An Australian, an Indian and a Chinese man walk into a Pub”… Well an  Australian could have Indian or Chinese background. What qualifies someone to be  Australian?

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    RevHead
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    • I guess that’s the point. How many people do we have here, as a proportion of  the population, with, say, a Chinese background, not to mention many others. How  does that same figure calculate in China? Virtually zero. And Australia cops the  “racist” tag? Compared to the rest of the world, that’s just hilarious.

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      Davo
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      May 30, 2013, 5:36PM
  • So what if you were the Chinese or Indian person and ready to laugh, does  that make you racist? I bet it wouldn’t. I don’t agree with the comments that  have been said in the past week by the little girl or Eddie but as they were not  joking at all and in the girls case quite serious (I don’t care that she was 13,  she should have known better) this is the political correctness gone too far,  once again.

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    Ollie
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  • I can’t believe that I just read a lead article on The Sydney Morning Herald  that used ‘Urban Dictionary’ as a seemingly legitimate source. What has become  of my favourite paper?

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    Melissa
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    May 30, 2013, 4:46PM
    • True dat!

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      Ash
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      May 30, 2013, 5:17PM
    • ‘Casual racist’ is a slang term, hence the slang reference. For the record,  Professor Houston said while ‘casual racism’ wasn’t referred to in literature on  the subject, he defined it as “when a comment made by an individual or  organisation unintentionally has an impact of discrimination on an  individual”.

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      Ed
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  • Scary, 46% think they are casual racists but not prepared to change. I am  really disappointed.

    It is not about being politically correct, it is about allowing people of all  races being free and able to participate in society equally.

    That is not to say anyone is above criticism, but criticise the behaviour,  not the race.

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    Karl L

                    

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    • Nature the original discriminator, made the races different, maybe she is  racist… or am I being sexist by calling nature female ???

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      Gordo
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      May 31, 2013, 10:32AM
  • Apart from the idea than too many Australians are indeed unthinkingly and  unknowingly racists, I don’t agree with the reasoning in this story.  The above  kind of thinking is simplistic:

    a) because there isn’t really such a thing as race (i.e. is a fabricated  construct); and, b) because there are such things as cultural differences  and different ways of using language (for example when people speak English as a  second language – as I do),

    which can legitimately lead to good humour.

    Further, the modern aversion to causing offense is quite honestly offensive  to me and I will not be cowed by unthinking knee-jerk reactions.

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    Bejo
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  • We are all racist in some way or another. I suppose I would be classified as  racist because I am house hunting at the moment and there is no way I would  reside in an area that is predominantly Muslim. Plus I am against people wearing  burka’s in public areas/shopping centres. But I do have friends who are ‘modern’  Muslims and I would do any thing for them. At the work place I do not  discreminate but we all say faux pas … get over it!

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    Jen
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    Sydney
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    May 30, 2013, 4:47PM
  • You just have to read the comments on Caroline Wilson’s article today to  realise that, sadly, many still don’t get it. People are calling Adam Goodes all  sorts of names (without disclosing who they are), it’s a disgrace.

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    Peter
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    May 30, 2013, 4:48PM
  • race – a group of persons connected by common descent (Macquarie  Dictionary)

    So if you are going to claim that a person from Sth Africa, Ireland and  Australia could be of the same race then you could equally claim the same of  India, China and Australia.

    Any use of people from Australia could cover descendants from so many  different countries, so your “clarification” is absurd.

    How many generations have to pass before someone in Australia who has Irish,  Chinese, Indian, English, Vietnamese blood in them ceases to be a descendant of  that race?

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    Wal
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    May 30, 2013, 4:48PM
  • The more people get upset over the silliest things, and the more  “anti-racist” social engineering laws there are, the more people are going to  become racist. I am fat and people think it’s okay to taunt me, and I am often  told to “just let it go over me”. If there were “anti-fat” social engineering  laws, then I know would cop even more abuse.

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    Fiona
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  • “But he said if one person was offended by a joke, it was racist.”

    Glad we are clear on the definition. I don’t think the dictionary concurs but  that’s ok, we redefined “misogyny” so we can redifine “racism”.

    Yes, racism is asinine and low brow but the current hysteria is  ludicrous.

    Our Government makes racially discriminatory laws, ostensibly to help  Aboriginal communities, and noone seems to bat an eyelid. But a couple of ill  educated bogans make some off colour comments and everyones loses his tiny  little mind. People need to get a grip.

    In reality there is a gross double standard. Sexism only is bad when women  are the target and racism is only bad when a minority is targetted. Apparently  as a middle class white man I am responsible for the world’s ills and I am told  that quite often. Check your white privilege.

    So yeah, this is just lunatics in the MSM making an issue where there is  none. If they really cared for these minorities they’d do something constructive  rather than beating up on people whilst feeling morally superior.

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    Pfft
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  • To the rest of the world many people from many nations built this country,  and many just bludge of it , if you dont like us feel free to leave 200 years  and I can look at places that have been civilized for thousands of years that  are a mess, I love who we are

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    Robo 1955
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  • Have I understood what this professor is say right? Only minorities can  object to racist remarks etc. But because I’m classified as being a member of a  majority group I can’t complain about someone from a minority group being racist  in some way to me. Is that right? Why have we all become so thin skinned?  What ever happened to the old saying ‘Sticks and stones may break my bones but  names will never hurt me’? This political correctness has gone way too far.  We are all different yet we are really all the same. We all love, feel pain and  laugh at different things. We can’t please everyone all the time and someone  will get their feelings hurt, be embarrassed and upset. That’s life, deal with  it. One of our politicians once said ‘life wasn’t meant to be easy’, not a truer  word said.

    There are far more important things in the world to worry about than what he  said or she said or might have meant. When it’s all said and done who really  cares? I know I don’t.

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    R U Serious
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    Melbourne
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    May 30, 2013, 4:49PM
  • I must admit I’m struggling with the current racist controversy. I’ve said to  a couple of friends that I didn’t see the “ape” comment as racist since it could  be applied to any person who you wanted to refer to as large, shambling, maybe  uncoordinated. I believe that’s how the Americans use it.

    Both of my friends were aghast at my insensitivity, so I stand corrected. but  still….If I called someone a “great big bear”, could that be considered  racist?

    The point of the article still stands though – we can be a bit careless or  thoughtless (or even casually racist) on occasion. Being Scottish I’ve always  been able to take the moral high ground (“Wogs begin at Calais”) but I’m curious  if I’ve personally been subjected to casual racism with the institutionalised  stereotyping of Scots as mean?

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    Whatdidyoucallme?
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    Sydney
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    May 30, 2013, 4:49PM
  • Notice you changed the opening line from the Irish,Aussie and SA joke as you  felt they were a poor reflection of race.

    This is a shame.

    Nothing illustrates the pervasiveness of racism in australia as the “irish  joke”

    As an Irish person living in Australia I have put up with tales of alleged  Irish stupidity and been expected to laugh along lest I be a killjoy.Why should  I laugh at statements that infer my people are inherently stupid? These jokes  descend from the concept of the Darwinian  racial tree which put the Irish  amongst the lower races of Europe most closely related to apes..( still ahead of  Africans and aboriginals however)

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    Green blood
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    May 30, 2013, 4:50PM
  • I also laugh at engineer jokes, Australia / England jokes, Sydney / Melbourne  jokes, ageist jokes and a whole lot of other jokes that are not PC.   I happen  to be a 54 year old engineer who was born in England and who has lived in both  Sydney and Melbourne.   If a joke is clever then I am more than happy to laugh  at myself because a lot of the cliched racial and professional characteristics  have some element of truth about them.   Yes, we need to stamp out racial (and  lawyer?) vilification but to keep playing the racist card for little things  weakens its power.   McGuire’s comments are out of line because they are aimed  at one person and aren’t funny.   Generic jokes about an Englishman and Irishman  and a Scotsman are usually fine.

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    Simon
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    Canberra
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    May 30, 2013, 4:51PM
  • Political correctness gone wild.

    “But he [Houston] said if one person was offended by a joke, it was  racist.”

    So now our criterion is a single person being offended? So any joke that Prof  Houston finds offensive is therefore by definition racist? And nobody else’s  opinion matters? Unless they also agree its racist?

    You want to know what is racist? If the 13 year old girl had called a “white”  player an “ape”, nobody would have said a thing, let alone it making the news.  So, the media (and Prof Houston) is expecting different behaviour around an  aboriginal player to that which they  would expect around a “white” player.  That’s racism.

    I doubt that Houston even sees the irony of his position.

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    Peter Webb
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    Hornsby
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:51PM
  • I’m lucky to have worked with Aboriginal people across Australia over the  past seven years. They are often a great people but like all communities have  been racist, bigoted, intolerant, and sexist to me, or towards others. But I  don’t complain about it because I’m no saint.

    But the day I believe racism is dead is the day Greeks, Italians, Aborigines,  Indians, Chinese, and all other identities stop saying “You Aussies…[insert  put down]”. I hear more intolerance from ethnic groups and Aborigines than I do  ‘whites’ but you wouldn’t know it was that way because ‘white’ Australians don’t  complain. It is part of our culture to be off beat, silly, and stupid, if not  racist but not complain about being on the receiving end. Racial violence is  rare in this country toady. Who are the ones punching on at the Australian Open  every year?

    Yes, our nation has always been intolerant to someone. ANZAC Day is based on  eugenics and Social Darwinism, as was our Federation and first acts of  Parliament. Read Charles Bean’s ‘History of the War 1914-1918’ and you’d think  you were reading Mein Kampf. Australians are no different to any other nation in  our intolerances and racism. Find me a society that isn’t bigoted towards  another, any where in the world, at any time in history. I’d love to know who  they were!

    Commenter
    Paulie72
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:51PM
  • I confess to being a bit confused.  So we can no longer celebrate the  differences between us for fear of being a casual racist. Is that what we have  come to?  But its still OK to make fun of different nationalities? Is that  right? So white Australians like myself can laugh at each other and celebrate  our differences with our Italian, Greek and German friends, provided they are of  the same race, but not with our Chinese and Japanese friends, because we need to  know someones race before hand so we are not a casual racist. So are we going to  stamp everyone on the forehead at birth so we all know what race we are?  Or are  we all expected to wing i?.

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    What race are you again?
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  • 45% of voters stating that they are ‘casual racists’…says it all about the  country really!

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    DexJnr
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    May 30, 2013, 4:51PM
  • Every time I hear someone called ‘white trash’, I suppose I feel some part of  others ethnicities might feel, except that calling people ‘white trash’ seems to  be sadly ‘acceptable’.

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    Tm
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:52PM
  • I am totally confused, we are supposed to live in a multi racial mul;ti  cultural society which to me means that we recognise that we have many different  nationalities many different cultures and we celebrate their differences, enjoy  their cultures and enjoy their celebrations (Chinese new Year, Christmas, Eid,  Diwali etc etc. Instead the PC mob would have all morphed into one agnostic blob  with no recognition of difference or culture. that is NOT what I want in a  multicultural society. On that basis I have no problem with enjoying a  characterture or parody of one’s nationality, I am not offended by Irish jokes  nor do I find the jew the Arab and the pope joke racist. Recognising that we are  all different in so many rich and joyful ways should be what multiculturism is  all about and please lots of Irish jokes, I do enjoy a laugh (being Irish)

    Commenter
    Bill
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:53PM
  • Theres a problem in the concept of an Australian, a Chinese and an Irishman  in that Chinese and Irish is a race but Australia is a construct of all races  all cultures. Once we suggest Australian then we ourselves are racist as for  some it just means anyone who identifies with the nation but then the racists  are those who deem Australian as being of a particular appearance. The second  aspect is there isn’t a mention of why people may find the joke funny, yes many  of the jokes are predicated on an assumed negative or stereotype behaviour  whilst in the main most humour takes the same line of generalities which then  become humorous even if we don’t agree with the construct of the joke. ‘My dog  has no nose how does it smell?”” Terribly” it’s an old joke and ridiculous in  this notion and yet we laugh at the absurdity of it. I am not condoning a racist  joke but suggest that the shared laughter isn’t just peer group pressure but  something about the nature of humour itself. Self-depreciating humour itself is  funny for some and weird for others. racist statements are wrong as they seek to  suggest truth and years ago Irish jokes we used to politically denigrate Irish  and yet the same joke was told with a polish person being the subject or another  nationality and yet the joke for some reason still is funny be it right or  wrong.What do we do when a comedian of a particular racial identity tells a  racist joke about their own race??? I guess the ability to tackle the  complexities of humour itself was outside the ability of either the article or  the writer.

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    the bolter
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    May 30, 2013, 4:53PM
  • I have no trouble laughing at so-called racist jokes, whether they are about  my race or someone else’s. If my aboriginal and Irish friends can make jokes  about their own and other races and laugh at them, i fail to see why i must  refrain from showing that i too enjoy the humour, simply because my skin is  white. Australia has become a weak, soft, and pathetic nation. Harden  up!

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    candee
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    May 30, 2013, 4:54PM
  • “Having read the article, do you think you’re a casual racist?”

    No I can’t be as I have many different races in my ancestry. German,  English, Welsh, Scottish and Aboriginal.

    Personally I think Eddie was just trying to make light of the situation that  happened on the weekend.

    If calling someone “an ape” is wrong then so be it, but I was called a “white  dog” by an Aboriginal some years ago.

    I was told by Aboriginal elders to take it further, I just laughed and told  them I answered the person back with “Woof Woof” then laughed at him, they said  good on you and then laughed along with me.

    I think too many people get too uptight about things and need to learn to  relax as you are only on this planet for a short time.

    Commenter
    Jack
    Location
    Sitting in front of my computer
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:54PM
  • “It’s not okay to laugh at other people or to discriminate against other  people just because they are different”.

    Errm.. Should I discriminate based on people not being different???

    We are called to discriminate all the time… I mean, I can’t hire everyone  for the one job that is going. So I discriminate on, oh.. say work  experience.

    Thinking people recognise that race is a poor basis for such discrimination,  but come on… I’m tired of hearing that we can NEVER discriminate on ANY basis.  Being “indiscriminate” used to be considered a character flaw. I discriminate  every day, I just do it on more meaningful criteria than race. I hope you do  too, or you can’t think at all.

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    John
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    May 30, 2013, 4:54PM
  • Next to go will be the fat or blonde jokes.

    People are being over sensitive and are becoming “thought police”.

    Maquire did nothing racist, just stupid in light of the hoo haa about the 13  year old girl’s comments.  It actually had nothing at all to with race but his  full beard and size correlating with that of a large primate. Macquire might  have used the same comment in relation to any large hirsute person of any race.  A non-racist example of correlation is calling someone fat, a whale.

    What happens is that people who have experienced true racism, or any ism for  that matter become more sensitive than is necessary as a result of our natural  self-reflection about things that trouble us.  This is the cause of many mental  illnesses, including eating disorders.

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    Jimhaz
    Location
    Occupy Cronyist Governments
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:55PM
  • What a sorry country we are going to live in if we can’t even joke about  other races or any group be it minority or majority.  Are you telling me these  “minorities” don’t tell jokes about white Australians?  We are so focused on  pandering at everyone that we build up even more resentment.  That’s why it’s so  hard for Australians to understand if we enforce our beliefs in the Middle East  it’s ok to be punished but if a Middle Eastern person enforces their beliefs  here we have to deal with it?  Where’s the racism now…..

    Commenter
    APD
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:55PM
  • There are going to be a lot of unemployed comedians in the not-too-distant  future. It’s going  be hard to live in a world where people are no longer  allowed to be funny, except at their own expense. In fact, feel free to mock me.  Please. I honestly don’t care, just make me laugh…

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    Rusty
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    May 30, 2013, 4:55PM
  • Guess what you can go to Ireland and hear Irish jokes told by locals. Great  fun. I thought laughter was the best medicine.

    Commenter
    peter
    Location
    vietnam
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:56PM
  • People really need to think before they speak thats all.

    Commenter
    Daniel
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:56PM
  • You make a fair point. If we all took an honest look at ourselves, most of us  would probably fall into the category of ‘casual racist’. I am a white male  who grew up in country NSW and was called all sorts of names by both indigenous  and non-indigenous kids I went to school with. Thanks to a pale Scottish father  and a redheaded, freckled mother, my skin was pretty much paler than pale. Hence  the nicknames ‘Snowflake’, ‘Casper’ and (my favourite when I got sunburned)  ‘Apache’. I learned to live with it and I’m pretty sure I don’t have any  emotional issues as a result of it. But surely the guidelines you make for  racist comments should apply, not only to ALL races, but also to anybody likely  to be offended by a ‘joke’. To quote the professor: “But he said if one person  was offended by a joke, it was racist.” So no more Irish, Scottish, English,  American jokes. We should also ban jokes about one’s religion, sexual persuasion  and hair colour. We can’t make jokes about women because that would make us  sexist. All that leaves are jokes about Australian males who, apparently,  are either too ‘redneck’, too ‘yobbo’, or too stupid to care that they are being  made fun of. Discrimination of any kind should never be tolerated, whether  blatant, unintentional or ‘institutionalised’. But where do we draw the  line?

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    TorsoBoy
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    May 30, 2013, 4:56PM
  • I’m surprised the Herald changed the nationalities of the three characters of  the people who went into a bar.

    I am Irish by birth (although I am an Australian citizen by adoption).  Racially I am a Celt. That is why I get cross when people describe immigrants as  Anglo-Celtic. The “Anglos” are the English. All the other nations of the British  Isles are Celts.

    Calling me Anglo-Celt is more offensive to me than someone telling me an  Irish joke. I don’t mind jokes about different nationalities as such. Yes, they  can reinforce stereotypes (stupid Irish, tight wad Scots, loud mouth and  socially inept Americans). However, as long as they are not directed towards a  specific person or used to humiliate a specific person then it is a question of  balance.

    What Eddie McGuire did was to direct his utterly stupid remark towards one  person. Those remarks were based on the inference that black people are similar  to apes. There is no way in the world that that link could ever be regarded as  suitable material for a joke.

    There is a world of difference between McGuire’s completely stupid remark and  racially inspired jokes.

    I suspect I will be flamed for these remarks. However, before you attack me  answer this question: “Have you ever laughed at a Kiwi joke?” (Bear in mind than  many Kiwi jokes allude to bestiality by New Zealanders.) If you have, don’t  attack me.

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    Joe Yass
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    May 30, 2013, 4:59PM
  • The racism industry tries harder and harder to find new ways to create  division. It has to, many people are employed in this industry, and if they do  not find ways to create racism where none exists, or to castigate white people  for existing, they may  find themselves out of a job.

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    Lord Jim
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    May 30, 2013, 4:59PM
    • Well said! These people don’t have real jobs, so have to make up work for  themselves to justify their pent up, left wing rages against the established  order.

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      Lord
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      May 31, 2013, 10:11AM
  • I recently received an email notification from a government job agency, about  a job that their algorithms thought that I might be suitable for.

    It sounded fantastic, and right up my alley. I had been looking for a change  of scenery, and so I began my application process, excited at this new  opportunity.

    Prompted by the online application system to read the criteria, I was  crestfallen to notice that I was actually ineligible because I am not of  Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent.

    It was a position that had been set aside for people who “identify” as  such.

    To me, that is legislated racism.

    Why should I be denied a job opportunity because I am of Anglo Saxon and  Hungarian heritage?

    I think that we are all getting a little bit precious though.

    Why is it that “white” people, who are *not* a majority, are generally the  only people who can be considered to be racist?

    “Racism” should be defined as words or actions with a hateful intent behind  them that are directed toward any race. Words, by themselves, cannot be  racist.

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    Judas
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 4:59PM
    • This is all because they want to “diversify” the workplace, regardless of  whether people have the correct qualifications etc or not. Diversity = control  by the cabal.

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      Lord
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      May 31, 2013, 10:18AM
  • Clarification: An earlier version of this story led with the sentence: “An  Australian, an Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.” This was changed  due to the fact a person from these three countries is often of the same race.

    That’s weird last time I checked South Africans were predominantly African  🙂

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    thermyan
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    May 30, 2013, 5:00PM
  • Please SMH and other opinionated do-gooders, just go away and look after your  own pathetic and trivial lives, get out of mine!  I’ll think whatever I wish,  thanks all the same.

    Commenter
    Go Away
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:01PM
  • Most  of us have enjoyed jokes that make fun of the Irish, English,  Americans, New Zealanders, Jewish, etc. Indeed, often the tellers of those jokes  have belonged to the group targeted. We’ve laughed at the Kiwis alleged deep  affection for sheep, at the unhygienic, whinging poms, the strange logic of the  Irish, and so on. Yet when David Morrow tells a joke about Aboriginals that is  not spiteful, vicious, or cruelly disparaging, and not particularly funny, he is  sent to counselling. So, are these jokes all the same, with Morrow simply  falling foul of the law of Political Correctness? Do Indigenous Australians need  to toughen up and not be so sensitive to jokes? Or is there a  difference? True racism, as defined at the recent Sydney Writers’ Festival,  is reinforcement of oppression.  Are Indigenous Australians oppressed?  Well,  they form about 2% of the Australian population, yet they fill the gaols  they  die years before other Australians, Indigenous young are suiciding in epidemic  numbers, they are over-represented in all areas of disadvantage and  substantially under-represented in areas of advantage, particularly business,  economics, education, politics, and government. These are evidence of a  marginalised group suffering oppression from the majority groups. The day might  arrive when Indigenous Australians are fully represented, or even  over-represented in all the areas where they currently lag behind; when this is  not a matter regarded as worthy of special comment.  When, of if, that day  arrives, jokes about their skin colour will be on a par with Irish jokes. They  might offend, but won’t be true racism.  But until then, jokes will continue to  hurt and reinforce the stereotype of Indigenous Australians as a forsaken  minority. McGuire’s ‘joke’ would never be funny, but Morrow’s could one day  raise a smile from many, if not all Indigenous Aussies.

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    tsangwah
    Location
    canberra
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:03PM
  • Just what are you implying when you say “An Australian” at the beginning of  the joke at the beginning of your piece? Can you be Chinese Australian or Indian  Australian? Or your assuming Australians are all White? Or perhaps you’re  referring to Indigenous Australians…?

    Is it just me or are most ‘defenders’ of the status quo generally of Northern  European background and specifically of Anglo-Irish decent? Can we have a  Chinese and/or an Indian comment as well?

    Or is the joke: “An Australian, a Chinese and an Indian man walk into a bar.  The Australian says you two keep quiet and let me do all the talking” ?

    Commenter
    Ali
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    Mascot
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    May 30, 2013, 5:03PM
  • If this is racism I shall wear it as a badge of honour…….barking mad. Oh  did I tell you the one about the African footballer and the Chinese actress?

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    dasher
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    May 30, 2013, 5:04PM
  • To state that if one person is offended by a joke it is racist, is  ridiculous. I prefer to call myself a ‘culturist’, in that there are aspects of  certain cultures which I find offensive (such as female genital mutilation,  capital punishment, torture and many others). Humour can be a very useful weapon  in attacking these things as in the many jokes told against themselves by the  members of communist countries during the Cold War. I don’t care what someone’s  skin colour is or what religion they are but if there is a generally widespread  unpleasant aspect to a certain culture, then it deserves to be attacked. There  are many Irish jokes (I am of Irish background) and I find many very funny. The  ability to laugh at one’s self is priceless.

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    Jeannie
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    May 30, 2013, 5:05PM
  • A University Academic, Lefty Reporter and Julia Gillard walk into a  bar…

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    ABCeeeeeeee
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    May 30, 2013, 5:05PM
  • So why do we therefore have a nationality, if we cannot describe people by  their country of orgin.  This is all political correctness gone mad……. I do  not condone offensive comments made to purposefully hurt another person (racial  or sexual), however using a person’s nationality as a noun should not cause  outrage.  I mean, saying “a Chinese man” is descriptive not offensive. It no  different to saying “a blonde female” to but a bit of prospective to the  story.

    Commenter
    Alison
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:05PM
  • why do these articles always seem to come across as only white people are  racist?

    I know it doesn’t say it directly but it just seems to come across that way.  these articles always seem to make out that asians, indians, africans, europeans  etc aren’t at all racist, which is of course complete lie.

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    evo
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    May 30, 2013, 5:05PM
  • Are you telling me most Australians are racist?, us Australians who welcome  foreigners from all around the world into our community, us Australians who have  one of the most multi-cultural populations in the world, us Australians who have  the political freedom to say what we want about who ever we want and yet hardly  abuse that privilege.

    I love jokes about stereotypes there is nothing wrong with that and yes  sometimes they are race based stereotypes. If your that much of a bleeding heart  that you can’t have a laugh at one of these jokes then you are smaller then the  rest of us.

    Megan go get yourself a herbal tea and a sense of humour.

    Commenter
    Ried Alderbook
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:06PM
    • What happened to Adam Goodes is not in the context of a joke. He was doing  his job and some random 13 year old girl called him an ape. We don’t know why  she chose that word but we certainly know she did so because she found in him  some likeness to an ape because why else would you do it? It is offensive. He  did not do anything to her to deserve being called a name. He did not know her.  Goodes displayed the most gracious but firm reaction to say that he will stand  up to this sort of behaviour for the good of society.

      What Eddy McGuire did was a poor taste joke. Stupid and thoughtless, from a  successful businessman, a grown man with many experiences. How he could find it  funny after all that saga in the media it beggers belief.

      It is absurd to generalise that Australians are racist. However we do have a  tendency to call people names. In my first job, a manager called me “the yellow  peril” daily as a greeting (I’m of Chinese background). A neighbour would be  chatting to me about day-to-day things and refer casually to “bloody Asians” or  “dirty Tongans”. These things annoyed me but I did not call them out because  they were said in a friendly context. Do I wish I had said something, oh yes,  because by not saying anything I in away gave them permission to carry on. I  tell slef deprecating jokes about my background among non-Chinese friends and  they participate and it is totally fine, but calling a stranger names? It’s not  on!

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      Pauline
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 12:42PM
  • I think humans are always going to laugh at the expense of others.  Unfortunately that’s what jokes tend to be about. Maybe we’ll shift it from the  public arena to the private one but it won’t stop.

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    Jaded
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    May 30, 2013, 5:06PM
  • There is no black or white (is that racist?) answer.  I’m often the butt  of mother-in-law and ‘oldies’ jokes where does that leave me?Interestingly I can  laugh at them too. No I’m not trying to make light of a serious situation but  let’s face it human nature being what it is will always see one group taking  ‘the mickey’ (Oops! is that racist?) out of another.

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    Joy27
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    May 30, 2013, 5:07PM
  • This is extremist thinking by left-wing ultra freaks who want to reduce the  world to such a state of political correctness that soon it will be impossible  to laugh at anything.

    The issue here isn’t racism. Why? Because racism would work in either  direction. the fact is it is only racist if the person on the receiving end is  considered a vulnerable minority.  If, on the other hand, the comment is  directed to someone that is considered a less-vulnerable majority, nobody thinks  twice. If I was to call Eddie McGuire a white demon, I doubt he would hold a  press conference to tell everyone how sad he is. He wouldn’t care.

    There is no such thing as being a casual racist. It’s more like being a  casual thoughtless person. Commenting on somebody who is fat is no doubt just as  painful to them, yet race has nothing to do with it.

    In my opinion this is nothing more than a desperate PR stunt by some moron  milking the race card for all it’s worth. To the bleeding heart writer of this  ridiculous article: if you want to see racism in is true and nasty form, go to  Singapore. Or China. Or India. Go somewhere that they pay you less because of  your race, or make you live in a certain part of town…..

    I think we should all just harden up a little and learn to ignore the  occasional unkind word that comes our way, and just be thankful that we live in  a society such as ours where true racsim doesn’t exist.

    Commenter
    Max
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:07PM
  • This is political correctness has gone stark raving mad. It is mostly the  media itself drumming up the verbal mantra, who are more and more becoming the  Thought Police rather than doing their job and unbiasedly just reporting the  story. I do agree there is point in your story, but it is a huge difference  between accidentally or clumsily saying the wrong thing and attacking with  deliberate invective speech. Yet frankly, mere words does not condemn people as  racist, and by just screaming for blood or one’s head on a platter for it  probably makes just another mob of haters. Racism is bad, but the mob (and the  media) stringing him up to the nearest tree is just as bad.

    As a caucasian, I feel that I’m now having to defend my own race all the  time, and have been placed as the perpetual perpetrator of wrongdoing and  discrimination against others. It is like the first picture here, just shaming  me to conform!

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    ariane
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:11PM
  • Let’s not get carried away with PC, are blod jokes racist??  Are Italian  jokes racist, if they are then don’t isten to Italians because they tell the  best Italian jokes.  What about Irish humour they constantly take themselves  apart, Billy Connoly must be  a total racist, some of the things he says about  the Scots are dreadful/ly funny.  What Eddie said was racist a joke about  entering a bar – sorry it’s what follows that could make racist not the fact  that a joke has 3 ethnics in it.

    Commenter
    Polite
    Location
    Blue Mountains
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:12PM
  • Favouring minorities and offering them priviledges that people who building  this country don’t get – that would be racism wouldn’t it?      Lets be honest  here, some of the  most racist countries on earth can be found in Asia / Sub  continent – look at India and its Caste system for a start!  then they have the  hide to call Australia racist!

    Commenter
    Gem
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:12PM
  • Why is it only white people who are racist?

    What about the muslims who hate non muslims? Or about Sunnis who hate Shiites  and vice versa?

    My Taiwanese friend who hates the Chinese (viscerally)?

    The Anglo Indian doctor (escaping England’s economic woes by practising  here), at my local medical centre who referred to African immigrants in England  as “riff raff” and blamed them with overloading the NHS?

    There are plenty of examples of non white racism and intolerance.  Why aren’t  you writing about that too?  It would certainly make for a more open honest  debate.

    ALL people – regardless of race and quite often because of creed – are  racist.

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    Bagheera
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    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:13PM
  • Even within the animal kingdom, different groups of the same species fight  amongst themselves, and bully other members of the pack.  Humans are just  animals.  We like to think that we are better, but often we aren’t.   Unfortunately, if it isn’t race, we just find something else to bully others  with.  Having said that, as a society we need to harden up a little.  Sure,  someone might offend with a comment or “joke”, but it is their own ignorance on  display.  Neither you nor I are going to change that.  Part of the attraction of  casual racism, is the socially taboo nature of the subject.  People can only be  offensive if others are offended.  Rob them of the offended response and it  totally dis-empowers them.  BTW and slightly off topic, people need to learn the  difference between Nationalism and racism.

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    Nationalist
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    May 30, 2013, 5:13PM
  • This is getting ridiculous……Ivan Milat got less publicity than  Eddie…….now which is worse????

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    Riverinadallas
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    May 30, 2013, 5:14PM
  • We all discriminate but there is a big wide line between discrimination and  racism. The fact that we discriminate is part of our design, it’s in our DNA and  it is an integral part of the decision process that permits us, as humans, to  function.

    As for government structures and programs only fitting 80% of the population,  what a fantastic result. Imagine if they only hit 30% of the population or 10%.

    There are plenty of boat people programs and indigenous programs that permit  funding that I cannot access because I am not in this 10%. I don’t scream  ‘racism’. I don’t scream ‘discrimination’, but it is! Either make the money  available to all or cut it off or, ignore the Professor’s thoughts on this  issue. It’s discrimination through necessity. Discrimination is good. It’ the  idiots claiming it’s racism that’s bad.

    Still, Eddie’s comments make him look racist and seem unintelligent. A good  mind does not have a brain spasm. A smart person does not utter garbage. Insults  based on race should never be accepted. Selection based on race should never be  accepted. Selection, discrimination should be based on performance and the  ability to deliver.

    Oh, my Aunty was born in India to two English journalists pre WWII. She still  looks the same ethnicity as the Australian, change that joke again!

    Commenter
    Ship
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:14PM
  • wow…more than half people consider themselves a casual racist and accept it  is offensive to minority groups and have no intention to not be racist – dont  understand how people can be so comfortable being racists.

    Commenter
    Mynx
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    May 30, 2013, 5:17PM
  • Maybe. But then maybe it should be ok anyway. Where do we draw the line. Why  is insulting someone due to race not ok but insulting someone for other reasons  ok?

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    BigDaddyBenno
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:18PM
  • I think that Australia is becoming too politically correct. When there is an  entrenched opinion that another race is inferior simply because they are of that  race, then this is a clear case of racism. However, most people aren’t this  parochial, and some of the jokes called out as being racist are meant to be  humorous musings with no malice or ill intent.

    If the same jokes were in reference to Caucasians, no one would ever complain  of racism. As a society we are all too ready to vilify people on the basis of  perceived racism because, as I suggested, we are too politically correct.

    A growing problem is the ‘reverse racism’ where jobs are only offered to  people based on their indigenous background. If I were recruited solely based on  my race (or even gender), I would be concerned about the distinct tokenism of  this policy, and it would make me second guess my own abilities. If the same  position were advertised saying ‘Indigenous Peoples need not apply’ it would be  an outrage. What ever happened to merit based appointments?

    As a nation, we should aim to offer the same opportunities to all peoples,  regardless of race, gender or background. We should not artificially advantage,  or disadvantage, any person based on the above factors.

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    Common Sense Please!
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    May 30, 2013, 5:19PM
  • I agree we are all racist, all people have some sort of prejudice of a group  of people who are of a different race, lets not forget that racism between  whites has been around for thousands of years. The English have hated the French  the french have hated the Germans and so on a so forth, I think the Romans had a  huge amount of racism with other people of all skin colours. So again the issue  is how we behave if we hurt people aim to demean people, discriminate against  people due to their race then there is an issue and we need to stop this  behavior.

    Commenter
    Steve
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:20PM
  • It’s not racism, it is discrimination.

    Commenter
    Ben
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:21PM
  • Eddie is a P.I.G., and yes the bulk of Australians are passive aggressive  racists.

    I’m a first generation Australian and have seen first hand how my Italian  parents were treated in the 70’s. Same thing is happening now only replaced with  other ethnicities.

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    Zelby
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    May 30, 2013, 5:21PM
    • .. yes I agree, nothing ever changes.The treatment by Australia of its own  indigenous people over the past 200 + years tells you all you need to know about  the subtle and overt attitudes surrounding racism and discrimination that  continue to occur on a daily basis in this country. It’s as bad as ever. The  vast majority of the migrants from Europe during the 50s, 60s and 70s, worked  very hard upon arrival in Australia, building up successful businesses, also  contributing much to Australia by introducing much needed cultural diversity to  the country during that period of time. Sadly, the derogatory attitudes towards  both indigenous people and migrant groups, have persisted – and continue  unabated to this day. These entrenched discriminatory attitudes are a symptom of  a wider malaise in this country. One need only to look at  the Australian  Governments’  “sorry”  campaign of a few years back, directed at the stolen  generations of aboriginal children. What a joke. Far too little, and far too  late. The damage done to those children (through neglect and abuse), and the  resulting consequences flowing on to following generations, who came after, has  been incalculable. To all those who say “get a thicker skin, we all joke around  about the perceived weaknesses and stereotypes surrounding minority groups”, I  would say this : ” many is the true word spoken in jest “. Racist jokes allow a  person to vocalise what they truly think or believe , but would not dare say in  normal conversation. Just because it is disguised as a joke, doesn’t make those  views any more acceptable, or less hurtful to the intended target group.The old  saying rings true : ” if you can’t find anything nice to say about someone,  don’t say anything at all ” –  that includes jokes.

      Commenter
      different decade same problem
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 11:55AM
  • It is very difficult for many who have been brought up to possess racist  attitudes, to only un-learn what their parents instituted within their minds.   In many instances, you cannot put in what nature/God left out for those who  continually hate.

    Mediocrity and complacency towards morality is the rule of law  here–government, churches, etc..  The immorality of racism is simply not  important enough to make the bigots change their minds.  If the tables were  turned and Aussie received racial abuse from non-Aussie, I am sure things would  be diametrically/dramatically different…

    I, for one, believe that if you give people a thorough understanding of what  confronts them and the basic causes that produce it, they’ll create their own  program, and when the people create a program, you get action.

    I am not a racist person. I am against every form of racism and segregation,  every form of discrimination. I believe in human beings, and that all human  beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.

    Truth is on the side of the oppressed.

    Commenter
    The Racial Doctrine
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:22PM
  • If I dislike all groups, ethic and otherwise, for different reasons.  Including my own. Does that make me racist?

    Commenter
    Mr. C
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:23PM
  • what is the ethnic background of the “Australian”?

    Commenter
    Ben
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:23PM
  • I’m gay and frankly I would rather know that someone is a homophobe by not  insisting on conformity to a politically correct view of how people “should”  behave. These guys need to “man up” IMHO.

    Commenter
    Steve
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:24PM
  • I just love to hear from the intellectual experts who see it as their right  to tell me what I am and how I think. When my daughter was a teenager if she  came home with a white boy I could like him or dislike him as I pleased. In fact  my wife hated one of our daughter’s (white) boyfriends. Had one of her admirers  been black and I had the nerve to disapprove of him I would have immediately  been branded, signed, sealed and delivered, certified racist. No further  questions. I don’t care what happened 100 years ago. If we don’t let go of that  stuff we may as well go on hating our antagonists from circa 1940. I adore the  press though. Does anybody remember Adolf Hitler was Time Magazine’s man of the  year in 1938? But let’s forget that!

    Commenter
    tabloid tightarse
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:24PM
  • I always feel discriminated against when an aboriginal tells me its their  land and not our land (our being all Australians). I was born here just like  they were and yet they feel as if they can discriminate against me. Never heard  them address that issue.

    Commenter
    Andy
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:24PM
  • An Australian, an Indian and a Chinese man walk into a bar…

    Well go on, finish the joke. Don’t leave us all hanging.

    Commenter
    Sloan
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:26PM
    • they see a horse, the barman says why the long face, oops can not say that,  it’s offensive to horses, and I should not refer to the barman as a barMAN, its  offensive to female bar staff, so I should say the bar person, so lets start  again, three people of non descripte background walk into a bar, they see a  horse and say, how is your day and the bar person smiles back, not as funny  now.

      Commenter
      funnyas
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      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 9:47AM
  • Aaaah, racism.  The new witchcraft!

    As a conservative, I’m automatically a racist (I’m not), just as I listen to  Alan Jones (I don’t).  Racism is the default accusation these days, and it’s a  case of guilty until proven innocent. Throw enough mud and some of it always  sticks.

    Anyway, I’ve just come back from a close friend’s house.  She’s Asian (egad!)  and gay (Good Lord!).  I’d best turn my conservative badge in, eh?  I mean, what  would Alan think?

    Commenter
    EndYardLimits
    Location
    Belmore, NSW
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:27PM
  • ENOUGH…….!!!!!! Stop this rubbish please. We are all different and we are  all what we are. People sledge names and other words at each other all the time  and its all taken in good fun or just rolls with the flow. Enough of this rot.  Everyone, every person, at some time says things that may be termed racist by  others with different values. Everyone is different and we cannot change our  cultural background. Live with t and get on with life.

    Commenter
    Doctorphil
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:27PM
  • One of the difficulties I see is that people whoare casually racists, in the  sense that a joke which is perhaps sterotypical or mild of nature, is that we as  Australians feel like part of being Australian is an ability to laugh at  yourself.

    I woudln’t be upset or offended if an Asian mate made a joke which was mildly  racisst about white people, especially if it was actually funny, so I don’t  really relate converse positions.  As a woman, I feel this way about female  jokes.  Some are funny, some cross the line.  I like to think I have a pretty  good idea of where that line is.

    I know some people will say that’s beacuse as a white person, I don’t  understand what its like to be a minority.  They’re right, I don’t. And I  probably never will, no matter how much it is explained to me.

    But I also don’t want to live in a society that is so PC that nothing to do  with a persons appearance can ever be referenced, or that jokes can’t be funny.   Its just that society needs to collectively find the line as to what is funny  and what is offensive.

    Commenter
    K
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:29PM
  • I’m fairly sure what everyone is worried about nowadays is just the human  condition. Racism is just innate tribal behavior where the interloper is seen as  a threat and known quantities (judged as against more foreign elements) are seen  as allies, at least in the presence of an even more unknown individual (that  particular friend/foe bias breaks down further in different settings, ie a small  country town could happily break down into family rivalries where no foreigners  present themselves and this would then be the great division).

    Everybody needs to settle down, especially the more hysterical in the group  espousing that whites have some greater claim to being ‘the worst of the worst’  among racists. That’s just pointless introspection and largely divorced from  reality. I’ve never met a man that didn’t think foreigners were suspicious (in  every country I’ve visited), whether or not he’d say so openly.

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    Bloke
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    May 30, 2013, 5:30PM
  • … people are always going to comment  on (one way or another) and also  laugh at their differences — be those of appearance or other defining  the  difference characteristics… but, racism is a radical form of unacceptability  and intolerance to the Oder’s specific marks of difference …  … so, lets  not mix issues here “In The Name of the Rose”…

    Commenter
    mama
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:30PM
  • It is not what said but how you said it.

    If my good friends call me racist names, I don’t mind at all. I know they  take me as a good friend.

    However, if a person praised me for speaking good English knowing that it  was not my native tongue, I would feel that he/she was trying to patronise me.  It is close to racism.

    Commenter
    Sensible
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    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:30PM
  • So apparently if Woody Allen or Mel Brookes make a joke about Jewish people  (which happens in pretty much every film they make) and a non-Jew laughs, then  that’s racist.  Or if Chris Rock or Eddie Murphy makes a joke about black  Americans and a non-black American laughs, then that’s racist.  The problem is,  with that logic, Woody Allen, Mel Brookes, Chris Rock and Eddie Murphy would  have to have segregated shows, but clearly if they did so that would be racist.

    Surely you have to take account of context.  In ‘Annie Hall’, Woody Allen  pokes fun at Jewish and Protestant Christian families (the dinners with his and  Diane Keaton’s families).  But Professor Houston’s blanket description implies  that Annie Hall must be a racist film.  I doubt there’s anyone in the world that  would perceive it that way.

    Whereas, I can’t see how the comments made by the 13 year old girl and in  particular Eddie McGuire can be seen as anything but racist because they were  rude, demeaning and offensive, and were made in a rude, demeaning and offensive  context.

    Commenter
    Stephen
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    May 30, 2013, 5:32PM
  • Xenophobic is the proper terminology, race is only one form of  discrimination. Unintelligent and shallow describe Eddie.

    Commenter
    KEEPITREAL

                    

    Location
    SYDNEY
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:32PM
  • Can I just set the record straight here? We are all of the same race, its  called The Human Race! Just because we are from different countries or have  different colour skin does not mean we are from another race! What we have here  is discrimination based on the colour of someones skin. Eddie McEverywhere needs  to step aside, what he said was disgusting. As a Collingwood supporter I cant  wait to see the back of him.

    Commenter
    Magpie
    Location
    Pyrmont
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:32PM
  • I’m thankful in this country issues are smaller. People don’t get killed that  often, tribal wars are arare. It still hurts so I contend small racist acts  don’t make them right. Last Saturday morning life guards at an elite Methodist  girls school aquatic centre, kicked myself South East Asian looking, and an  Indian parent, out of the parents swimming lane saying it was closed for a  filming promotion, quite smugly. That would have been acceptable had they not  immediately allowed a caucasian female to swim exactly where we were. When we  pointed this out her presence was “justified with blah from the life guards”.  Naturally the school has denied all. It’s also a pity that the school charges  hard working Asian and Indian blokes big dollars to send their daughters  there.

    Commenter
    William
    Location
    Australia
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:36PM
  • In today’s society we all have labels and it’s so trendy to have these words  so that you can fight your argument. For example, I do not agree with  homosexuality so I am a “homophobe” with “homophobia” just because I believe a  man and a woman belong together, so if I disagree with homosexuality the left  side and all the social engineers today label me. If I do not agree with boats  coming here because they are economic migrants seeking a better life whilst  there are 20,000 people sitting in a refugee camp on the Thai-Burma border who  have been waiting for years & with little chance to catch the same boat I am  xenophobic, racist and a bigot.

    It has become farcical in today’s  society to express an opinion other than  that of the left side of politics for you will be screamed at with all the usual  labels. Disagreeing with homosexuality does not make you homophobic, and  disagreeing with boats entering our waters on a daily basis doesn’t make you  xenophobic, bigoted, or racist.

    Please go to a Centrelink office and interview the caucasian staff that have  been screamed at by people of other races for being “white honkies”, you will  never hear about that anywhere in the media.

    Commenter
    Pierre
    Location
    SCG
    Date and time
    May 30, 2013, 5:40PM
    • Pierre@ Maybe you should get out into the suburbs of Sydney and see some of  the attitudes towards migrants. I have lived in this country for 20 years and I  can tell you that in the last 10 years at least racist behaviour has got worse.  Manners, courtesy, respect is no longer the norm in this country replaced by  filthy language, no respect for anyone or anything and a underlying racism, My  wife has been racially abused three times in public areas in the last 3 – 4  years for no apparent reason than the colour of her skin. Two times the language  used at her was loud, disgusting, racist and threatening and both times the  general public walked by and said nothing.

      Commenter
      Rob
      Location
      Happens all the time in the suburbs…….
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 9:09AM
  • Australia is one of the most racially tolerent countries in the World ,  unlike countries like India, and some middle eastern counties where they are  less tolerent towards of other races. (see map)  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/05/racial-tolerance-map-hk-fix.jpg.

    Commenter
    Baza
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 6:38AM
    • Maybe Australias more tolerant than other countries, but if you have the  subject of racist -abuse or a family member has been abused just because you are  not from a Anglo or European background it doesnt make you feel any better.

      Commenter
      Tina
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 12:36PM
  • So when is racism not racism? I am a half English red head and grew up being  called a pommy bastard and an orangatan, is that acceptable? It seems so, as  pommy is still used by all in society including the media. Ranga is also a term  used about red heads. The fact is all people are racist, it’s a failing of  humanity, you cannot stop it.

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    Red Sea Eagle
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    May 31, 2013, 6:38AM
    • It’s not consider racist if you are white because that does to fit with the  agenda of the media. Marginalise marginalise marginalise. If you have no problem  with people of another race, and indeed don’t care what another person’s race is  you are not a racist… unless the media want to make a story out of you.

      Commenter
      Boganville
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      May 31, 2013, 8:19AM
    • Don’t forget that we have a one way anti-discrimination law  imposed on us  without any democratic debate and we don’t have any democratic rights a la  Switzerland to modify it.

      Direct democracy is a way to check political power and direct democracy would  stimulate government to do the job it was elected to do and not to impose as it  is under our phony democracy.

      Commenter
      half
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 10:44AM
  • This whole sorry saga is just banana’s.

    Commenter
    JudoChop
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    May 31, 2013, 6:56AM
  • Hmmmm. I suppose being a direct descendant of the first fleeters and not of  convict lines I would like to point out that our new Australians namely of  indian or chinese descent regard us as the lower class of society.  This has to  be put in prospective while I agree that Adam goodes has a right to be upset. I  have been bullied at Uni by sri lankans, intimated by Indians and chinese in the  work place.  Certain parts of Sydney are now no go zones for white people. You  will also look back and see that the racism card has been pulled to fabricate  issues regarding road safety.  Before you start jumping up and down look at the  big picture.

    Commenter
    ok
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:00AM
  • Just another way for under achievers to cry victim in the public spotlight  for a society that teaches a sense of entitlement so quickly…

    Commenter
    Payback
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    May 31, 2013, 7:05AM
  • I am a humourist and I treat all jokes fairly, except those that are not  funny which I discriminate against by not laughing.

    Commenter
    Novostasi
    Location
    At the bar with an Aborigine, Irishman and a Blonde

                        

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    May 31, 2013, 7:07AM
    • Lol, me too!

      Commenter
      Clarence
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      May 31, 2013, 10:25AM
  • I cop this daily with my work colleauges negative comments about gays and  lesbians – not directly at me, but around me about others, and just like the  casual racist remarks made (usually by the same people), this gets dressed up as  larrikinism and is accepted as “a bit of fun” !!! Those who dare complain become  the subject of whispers within the groups and they simply get ostracised from  social contact. You can have all the anti discrimination laws in the world – but  you can’t legislate against hateful idiots. This is the REALITY of the  Australian workplace.

    Commenter
    Jacked
    Location
    Gosford
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:08AM
  • Be as racist and pig ignorant as you wish in private, but if you go on radio  or tv as the chairman of a large sporting organisation and do it you should be  sacked end of.

    Commenter
    syd_syd
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:10AM
  • There is racism in every country. Australia is one of the least racist  countries in the world though, and while we still need to work on becoming ever  more liberated and equal, I still dislike the way our media trumpets about how  awful we all are all the time.

    Commenter
    Efemral
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    May 31, 2013, 7:14AM
  • Here’s a question; if I find the customs and mores of various religious,  cultural or ethnic groups repulsive and dehumanising and mired in the Bronze  Age, am I a horrible person?

    Commenter
    Cap’n Morgan
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:15AM
  • All races are racist. It is good that we can openly have these discussions  and try to improve our attitudes to different races but do not be under the  illusion that we are the only racists around and are abnormal for our  attitudes.

    Commenter
    Coogee Bear
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    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:19AM
  • finish the joke….

    Commenter
    humperdinck
    Location
    adelaide
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:25AM
    • Can we laugh?

      Commenter
      Rrrr
      Location
      Sydney
      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 9:44AM
  • If Adam Goodes (or any other dark-skinned person) had tried to make the same  joke as Eddie McGuire, would we be calling him racist? Obviously, the answer to  that question is “no.”

    So, my question is, how can a comment be racist when made by one person, but  not another? Racism is racism, regardless of who is expressing it. The idea that  it’s acceptable for one group of people to say something, but not OK for another  to say the same thing is itself racist.

    Commenter
    DC
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:27AM
  • One correspondent stated that Australia, presumably the country, in which he  enjoys full freedom – ” you repulse me’- then may I recommend that he leave the  country of his time and apply to stay overseas. He obviously has no time for the  country in which he enjoys fullness of freedom and the freedom of expression  that belittles his country. He may like to inform the country of his freedom,  the country to which he shall seek his future. Hopefully, in time, he shall not  seek Consular assistance to return to the country that is repulsive to him.

    Bon Voyage

    Commenter
    Robert – Hunter Valley
    Location
    Hunter Valley
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:27AM
  • “An earlier version of this story led with the sentence: “An Australian, an  Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.” This was changed due to the fact  a person from these three countries is often of the same race.”

    But only the South African is stereotyped as an ignorant bigot, right? Where  does Professor Houston stand on that? I marched against apartheid in the 1980’s  and hundreds of us at a time made no bones about the fact that we thought white  South Africans were narrow-minded, church-ridden rednecks.

    Should we have resiled from that position because apartheid was actually an  understandable expression of the entirely valid aspirations of the Afrikaner  people?

    Commenter
    Cap’n Morgan
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:28AM
    • Now look at what is happening in South Africa. Whites being offed in record  numbers. That will happen here too if nothing is done!

      Commenter
      Lord
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      May 31, 2013, 10:12AM
  • My children go to a school where 60% of kids are from non english speaking  backgrounds. They are reguarly exposed to wonderful, culturally specific days at  the school which unify and educate the school body Every year, starting from  year 3 to year 6, they have to do a speech about multi culturalism with the main  focus being on racism. Every time I have a year 3 child start this speech, I  have to explain racism….they have no idea, they play equally with kids of all  races and genders and have never refereed in a derogatory manner, to any other  classmate  as anything other than by name or gender. As soon as the focus  switches to the multi cultural speeches, their class mates become defined by  their race. Mybe less time spent focussing on the differences and more spent on  teaching children to be welcoming, tolerant and accepting of others because of  who they are, not where they come from or what they believe in, will make racism  a thing of the past.

    Commenter
    Reneelin
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    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:28AM
  • If racism is, at a minimum,  an anxiety or suspicion about those of different  race, then every single human being is a ‘racist’. No exceptions. Anyone who  says “I’m not a racist” is a damned and contemptible liar. It is biologically  inbuilt to protect the clan genetics. Anyone who has travelled extensively knows  that ‘racism’ is universal among people of all types, i.e. 100%, and yes  including Aboriginal Australians. Some may adopt a ‘holier than thou’ demeanour,  but it fools no-one. Take note of anyone who claims to not be racist  – they are  at best delusional, but most likely a narcissistic liar.

    Commenter
    Mikkomikko
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    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:29AM
  • Does this self loathing know no bounds. All this silly discussion will do is  stereotype most Australians and drive real racists underground like Europe. Get  it out in the open, present counter points, honesty and with intellectual  nuances. In fact this whole debate stinks of self loathing. Look around you  at our society after returning from just about anywhere OS. We are the nation  that has achieved much. It will slow if lazy debates continue. We have a  sense of humor that is edgy sometimes but it also allows us to learn and see the  characters of people. We must not feel guilty .

    Commenter
    Digital
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    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:30AM
    • Don’t you understand the point of this media storm in a teacup is to prevent  us from discussion and acceptance?

      Commenter
      Media beat up

                      

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      Date and time
      May 31, 2013, 11:40AM
  • Australia is no more racist than anywhere else. Everyone is racist because we  are all myopic.  We look at life through the lens of our culture and experience.  However that doesn’t mean we have to be rude.  What happened to Adam Goodes was  both rude and racist.  It implied that he was subhuman.  What Eddie McGuire did  was shallow and excusing of something awful.  The real problem of racism is  failing to value other human beings as equivalent to ourselves.  Thinking we are  better because of our culture is false and arrogant.  Anything that does this  doesn’t need education it needs to look in the mirror.

    Commenter
    Simon
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 7:33AM
  • This whole thing is outta control. Can we PLEASE get back to a bit less  microscopic political correctness in every facet of our lives? “Casual racism”  is a stupid term, cos everybody can be GUILTY AS CHARGED just cos they get the  pip when a brown driver cuts them off, just as they get the pip if a  purple/white/peuce driver does. Its a type of thoughtcrime. Didn’t Australians  used to have a sense of humour, easy going and friendly personalities? Along  with that comes the odd swear word or “casual racism”. Just because you tell an  off joke doesn’t make you a racist. It simply makes you a casual idiot. Can we  get a grip on reality please?

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    Spender
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    May 31, 2013, 7:35AM
    • This whole thing is outta control. Can we PLEASE get back to a bit less  microscopic political correctness in every facet of our lives? “Casual racism”  is a stupid term, cos everybody can be GUILTY AS CHARGED just cos they get the  pip when a brown driver cuts them off, just as they get the pip if a  purple/white/peuce driver does. Its a type of thoughtcrime. Didn’t Australians  used to have a sense of humour, easy going and friendly personalities? Along  with that comes the odd swear word or “casual racism”. Just because you tell an  off joke doesn’t make you a racist. It simply makes you a casual idiot. Can we  get a grip on reality please?

      Read more:  http://www.smh.com.au/national/are-you-a-casual-racist-20130530-2ndyy.html#ixzz2UpazhS24

      ‘Political correctness’ is weasel term parroted by the uncomprehending who  fail to understand that it is a ruling elite construct designed to trivialise  anything that seeks to challenge injustice, unfairness and existing structures  of power and privilege. It you think it O.K. to belittle someone or have no  regard for their feelings or rights, then say so.

      The authors lack of comprehension of how offensive jokes by the dominant  group at the expense of those regarded as ‘others’ and worthy of exclusion is  typical of the comments here and reinforces the validity of O’Brien’s term  “casual racism”.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 12:07PM
  • I don’t like the human race. Does this make me racist.

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    Bill Hill
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    May 31, 2013, 7:41AM
  • If you believe in evolution as I do, then we’re all apes. Actually not apes,  but from the chimpanzee branch, anyway get over it now already, you bunch of  monkeys. Really! 🙂

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    Wayne
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 7:42AM
    • Fatuous drivel that in no way excuses Goodes being called an ‘ape’.

      It is true that human beings (homo sapiens) form a taxonomic family of  primates known as hominidae (or great apes) with chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas  and orangutangs whose most recent common ancestor lived roughly 14 million years  ago. The term ‘ape’ is common usage for only the non-human members of the  hominidae. The inference that dark skinned humans are ‘closer’ to the non-human  members of the family or are indeed a separate species or sub-species of ‘apes’  has a long and  reprehensible history. Do a search for ‘King O’Malley –  Aborigines – human beings’ to see how this thinking figured in Australia’s not  so so distant past.

      Also evolution is scientific fact not something you ‘believe’; in.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 12:30PM
  • But Chris, the 13 year old girl singled out one player who just happens to be  Aboriginal and call him ape. Why not any of the twenty or so other players who  are white? She did it for no other reason than the colour of his skin. Let’s not  kid ourselves otherwise. The positive thing is that it is being debated and not  swept under the carpet.

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    jr2
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    May 31, 2013, 7:44AM
  • The talk around the office water cooler, from the white folks I might add, is  that this has all been blow out of proportion, taken out of context and such …  scary stuff! … We just have to focus on what is right and what is wrong and  act accordingly.

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    JR Brand
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    May 31, 2013, 7:45AM
  • All you closet do-gooder’s get back in your box, your spoiling life on this  planet with your rantings…… how about the one about white guy, the black  guy, the pink guy, the yellow guy and the brown guy who walk into a bar…..  happens every day in stralia…..

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    Nigel K. Williams
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 7:57AM
    • So you’d like to be were the ‘do-badders’ rule? There are quite a few regimes  around the world that could accommodate you.

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      Michael Rogers
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      May 31, 2013, 12:33PM
  • I tend to think that the underlaying problem isn’t just race – there is  something fundamentally wrong with our tolerance of “larrikinism”, which  nowadays means nothing more than an excuse for making light of and/or joking  about others’ misfortunes.

    If anything we are actually not racists – we are just generally very good at  having fun belittling others and be all righteous about it.

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    Pawy
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    May 31, 2013, 7:58AM
    • there is something fundamentally wrong with our tolerance

      The dictionary defines that wonderful magic world “TOLERANCE”; disinclined  to interfere with other’s ways or opinions, in plain English put up and shut  up.

      no further comments.

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      half
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      Sydney
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      May 31, 2013, 11:53AM
  • This probably won’t even get posted due to the PC police, but “taking the  p..s” by jokingly teasing one another about one’s looks, voice, name, suburb,  car, dog, religion, race, profession, etc is an Australian cultural tradition.  As far as I have been the recipient of it, generally harmless. I bet you every  AFL footballer has been “bagged” or  “sledged” by every one of his team-mates  and has responded in kind.

    You don’t hear calls for media personalities to be sacked and publically  shamed when they make jokes about New Zealanders, the English, Irish or  Amercians.

    There are entire TV and radio programs (Australian and foreign) dedicated to  the same type of humour that Eddie Maguire so ineptly demonstrated. It seems  it’s OK for aboriginal people to make jokes about themselves, but not anyone  else.

    Racism is being discriminated against i.e. prevented from  joining/participating or subjected to doifferent treatment. It is not being  light heartedly teased.

    There’s another Australian saying applicable here. “harden the…. up”.

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    Bemused
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 7:58AM
    • Racism is being discriminated against i.e. prevented from  joining/participating or subjected to doifferent treatment. It is not being  light heartedly teased.

      There’s another Australian saying applicable here. “harden the…. up

      You just don’t get it do you – racist comments when added together compound  feelings of being excluded, not wanted.

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      Vigilant
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      May 31, 2013, 12:55PM
  • May I take a moment to point out that the clarification itself is casually  racist. Irish jokes are fundamentally racist jokes, and always have been. Race  need not be about colour. They don’t have the sting that many such jokes do,  becuse it’s been a long time since people of Irish ancestry were actively  discriminated against by Australian society. Try calling someone with an Irish  name a “tyke” and see what happens. I expect there are many white South Africans  who wouldn’t be too happy about being called a “jaarpy”…

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    Grayhorse
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    Blue Mountains
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    May 31, 2013, 8:00AM
    • im chinese and i make chinese racial jokes all the time, guess that makes me  both the perpetrator and the victim… so explain how your logic works in my  case?

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      will
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      May 31, 2013, 9:45AM
  • Racism is everywhere even at my workplace. Just because you do it in your own  home or you say it only as a joke to a friend because you are concious of the  people around you does not mean it is ok and exempt you from being a racist.  Unless you have been a victim of racism, you can never understand how the person  feels. I am sick and tired of tv personalities who makes a racist joke thinking  it’s funny, apologises then made the victim instead. They are not the victims.  The person in the joke is the only victim and need to realise the mental  consequences.

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    Vadermaul
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    May 31, 2013, 8:06AM
  • Ahh racism – a chance for the chattering classes to whip themselves into a  frenzy of self-flagellation and cultural cringe. It’s particularly telling when  even the author of this article doesn’t understand “race” and has to change the  title. add to that, the oft-heard comment when someone dares to criticise Islam  or Muslims – that’s racist! – when Islam clearly is not a race.

    Yes some people are racist, from the yobs who make jokes about Aborigines to  the Asian shop manager who wont hire “white kids” because “they’re all lazy” to  the Indian parents who freak at the prospect of their children “marrying  out”.

    But I’d much rather live in Australia with it’s more casual attitiude to race  than somewhere like America, where the race card is pulled in almost every  debate, or China, where racism seethes under the surface.

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    Get a Grip
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    May 31, 2013, 8:09AM
    • I’d much rather live in Australia with it’s more casual attitiude to race

      Yes, and I’d like it if Australia worked on reducing the casual attitude to  no racism.

      Oh, by the way I am not one of the  so called chattering class – that’s just  a term used by some to disenfranchise those with different ideas/opinions.

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      Vigilant
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      May 31, 2013, 12:46PM
  • Bugger no more blonde jokes or irish… my god every joke pokes fun at  somebody

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    ks
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    May 31, 2013, 8:14AM
  • Some people in every culture and country are racist. Many people in every  culture and country are not. The moment we start talking about all of ‘them,  versus all of ‘us’ we are engaging in stereotyping, which is the first step on  the slippery slide to racism and other forms of discrimination. Try just  sticking to what an individual does. Crass generalisations about a group, based  on the actions of one or a few, are not helpful not matter which side of the  fence you’re on.

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    Deerose
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    On a train
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    May 31, 2013, 8:17AM
  • growing up in 60’s 70’s in inner Melbourne almost everyone was from somewhere  else.  Very little overt racism. my foreign friends called me skippy, is that  racist? I think there will always be horrid people until they change nothing  will. I have been told to get back to where I came from and been called a wog as  well cos I look non anglo. it is not nice I have to admit. my ancestry is  English! I have also been picked on cos I’m short what is that heightism?

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    rara
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    May 31, 2013, 8:18AM
  • For God Sake, we are all such precious little pettles aren’t we. We have all  been called worse than a bloody ape, so get over it. If you want to meet  racists, go overseas and visit some other countries and you’ll meet plenty of  them, some who will knife you in the back as sooner look at you.

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    Another Grumpyoldfart

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 8:26AM
    • Epitomises how pathetic and self absorbed this country has become. I’m more  offended than you so you’re more racist. Spare me.

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      Wing Nut
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      May 31, 2013, 9:08AM
    • Wow, invoking God to let racist comments re-inforceracial subjugation,  however petty!  If you are a believer, I think confession is in order this  Sunday.

      Perhaps if you were on the receiving end, these ‘minor’ incidents all add up,  you would feel differently. It is a classic example of how a group with power  keeps others under control, no need for an atomic bomb when plenty of hand  grenades and land mines will have the same effect – it is literally a subtle  form of terrorism. You don’t have to be an apologist for your own race/tribe but  the least you can do is not insult others for their  race/religion/nationality/sexuality.

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      Vigilant
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      May 31, 2013, 12:35PM
  • “An earlier version of this story led with the sentence: “An Australian, an  Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.” This was changed due to the fact  a person from these three countries is often of the same race.”

    No No No No No. This is pernicious rubbish. There is no race but the *human*  race, ie every human being is the *same* race. The notion of ‘race’ is entirely  discredited pseudoscientific nonsense. Racism is the use of superficial  diferences between human beings — skin tone, culture etc — to deny the  humanity of the target group and justify oppression, expropriation and  ultimately genocide.

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    bondikat
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    redfern
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    May 31, 2013, 8:30AM
    • Yes, it’s pernicious rubbish but the reality is that animals discriminate  against the unfamiliar. It’s instinctive defensive behaviour.  Humans have a  basic animal nature beneath our veneer of civilisation.

      When petty taunts and insensitive jokes are of major concern then it’s clear  our civilisation is doing exceptionally well, given the blood with which history  has been written. How long we remain this civilised is another matter. I guess  as long as the environment and resources hold up.

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      Ecks Why Zed
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      May 31, 2013, 8:53AM
    • You could not be more wrong. Race exists.

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      Lord
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      May 31, 2013, 12:32PM
  • I use the same joke but in my version it’s A christian, A Jew and an Atheist  walk into a bar. This version is fine, because People can grow up and learn  about the difference between fantasy and reality. .

    Clarification: An earlier version of this story led with the sentence: “An  Australian, an Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.” This was changed  due to the fact a person from these three countries is often of the same race.  And the reality is “WE are all Ape’s, African Ape’s to be precise.

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    Lone Rider
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    Dandenong Ranges
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    May 31, 2013, 8:33AM
  • As a Kiwi, should I start taking legal action against all those Aussies who  make comments about New Zealanders and sheep or just accept them as telling a  joke?

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    Brian
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    May 31, 2013, 8:34AM
  • Professor Huston says “But he said if one person was offended by a joke, it  was racist”.

    That reduces everything that is said or done to the lowest common denominator  if one person out of 23 million can complain.

    Just remember “sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt  me”. Get a backbone and deal with any comment you don’t like … don’t just  whinge.

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    Offmychest
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    May 31, 2013, 8:38AM
  • Is it racist if an Anglo man prefers to date women of Asian, African (or  other) origin / appearance over a woman who is of Anglo appearance?

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    Racist question
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    May 31, 2013, 8:39AM
  • Stop bashing Australians as racist.

    I’m not an Australian by birth yet love this country and people here are some  of the most tolerant I’ve found around the world.

    So called racism, is a human trait and following are some of only numerous  examples to illustrate;

    1) Japanese frequently referred to white people as smelling like pigs of  butter 2) In Cuba where most of the population are of black roots the  Africans are considered a lower kind. Man and women always look for lighter  colour skin partner. 3) In Arab countries the only true Moslems are so called  first believers that are real ethnic Arabs and the rest are below them 4) In  Niger, Congo over 80% of women are lightening their skins (ala Michael Jackson)  to improve their chances of finding a boyfriend and getting married. 5) In  Latin America, black people have higher status than indigenous Indians 6) In  Europe and in Australia immigrants from Middle East and Pakistan consider white  women as a filthy, good only for abuse and disrespect 7) Orthodox Jews  consider every “goi” to be below them – the chosen race as opposed to master  race.

    Of course the above does not apply to everyone from the societies mentioned  but, these are prevalent traits easily encountered around the world.

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    marky
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    May 31, 2013, 8:40AM
    • Stop bashing Australians as racist.

      How??? when we have a one way anti-discrimination imposed without any  democratic debates whatsoever.

      That’s one the main reason I’m for a direct democracy a la Switzerland in  which only  the people are sovereign and have a democratic right to repeal or  modify any phony laws by calling a referendum via a petition and I’ sure if we  had that democratic right we would be a more relax and comfortable society.

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      half
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      Sydney
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      May 31, 2013, 1:20PM
  • Has anyone ever been prosecuted for a racist comment against a member of the  white majority ? Is it even possible? I doubt it . How about a member of one  ethnic minority group slagging off a member of another ethnic minority ? I very  much doubt that too.

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    Rob Herron
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    May 31, 2013, 8:43AM
  • If you hear so many racist taunts on air and in sporting fields and in public  places (ABC News reader on the bus), imagine how much more racist jokes and  slurs goes on behind closed doors and in private conversations! Do you still  call Australia a tolerant and inclusive society. I do not think so. We have long  way to go.

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    Raj
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:46AM
  • Every race is racist,  I had an Indian friend tell me once that Aboriginal  people are not as intelligent as the rest of us,  I was somewhat surprised as I  thought he of all people would go into to bat for them.  Anyway how does the  joke end? 🙂

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    Dingbat22
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    Sydeney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:46AM
  • An Australian, an Indian and a Chinese man walk into a bar.

    …I’m still waiting for the punch line. Clearly the joke is on the  Australian. …oops, was that racism?

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    Who is the joke on?
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    May 31, 2013, 8:49AM
  • Sounds like the black arm brigade and lefties are having a field day. This is  a massive storm in a tea cup. I expect more maturity from leading figures and  pointing out 13 y/o for special treatment is not the Aussie way. For racism hop  on a plane and fly to Europe and Asia.

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    Peter
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    May 31, 2013, 8:51AM
  • Every race/nationality has something to say about the other. Deep down we  connect with our own heritage (we are all xenophobic to some degree). I don’t  think there is anything wrong with that as it seems to occur naturally. It is  wrong though if you attack someone else for being different to you. I find that  Anglos are particularly racist towards southern Europeans (aka wogs) and Arabs.  The reverse is also true. Everyone seems to be racist towards Asians at some  point (especially whilst driving). Dunno why we can’t just accept our  differences and move on. Let me tell you though racism is alive and well and  always simmering under the surface. When it comes to jokes though people just  need to grow a sense of humour!

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    Johnny
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:52AM
  • I spent approx 12 months living and working in India.  Loved the place and  would like to go back.  It was there that I witnessed racism or exclusion or  what ever you wish to call it and it was against their own people, not me.  Mind  you I did not do anything to offend and tired as much as possible to observe  their cultural norms. I have been called many things during my life and many  names, some hurt most made me laugh, clearly you ever called me the name felt it  was the only way they could get at me.  This goes on in every culture, perhaps  its about time we stepped back and tackled some of the real issues in this  country, and not worry about what a silly girl yelled out at a football match or  an over paid TV presenter said or didn’t say.  While I have no brief for Gillard  I feel it is far more important that people in  this country are now throwing  sandwiches at the Prime Minister of this country.  While you may not like the  person you must respect the position and the symbol.  To do otherwise is  insulting to the position, the  country and everyone in it.  It is also un-  Australian and common assault, and the thrower of the sandwich should have been  escorted from the ground and charged with assault.  I seem to recall the silly  girl hurling insults at the football match was escorted from the ground, common  assault is apparently not classed as important as barracking at a sporting  event.

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    RS
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    May 31, 2013, 8:54AM
  • The poll as I read it has 45% so far as racist and not wanting change, I  guess that gives a strong answer that we are a racist country, how incredibly  depressing ( and that’s just the demographic reading this paper!!) some mornings  I wish I had stayed in bed……

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    Kate
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    Blue Mountains
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    May 31, 2013, 8:55AM
  • We are human.  We all say regrettable things! It just seems to me that a lot  of people go out of their way to find offense in what people say.  They actively  seek out what they consider to be a racist slur in any form.  Personally I don’t  care where you come from or what nationality you are, you are a human being just  like me.  Please take a deep breath and think “am i really that offended or am I  showing my own racial tendencies by being judgemental of the person who has  spoken?”

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    Megan
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:55AM
  • All humans are racist to varying degrees. It’s in our nature as tribal  animals. Some people have the intelligence and education to rationalise their  racist tendecies and seem to be able to curb that inate human desire to think of  their tribe as being superior to all others, while others who may not be as  intellectual express their racism openly. Therefore, I think it really is a case  of educating people and allowing society to become more of a racial mix to  minimise our racist tendencies.

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    Ross
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    May 31, 2013, 8:56AM
  • race as defined as an assumption that one group is superior – I don’t think  so in Australia.

    biologically we are attracted to similar/safety and fear the  unknown/unfamiliar/dangerous – so we tend to like / feel safe in our own group  and dislike others – that’s why people go to church – to find an ‘us’ against  ‘them’

    until fully assimilated, we are sensitive to negative stories about other  groups – living near the CBD, I occasionally see young Australian aboriginals,  and if I see them walking fast with new running shoes on, I start watching very  carefully to prevent bag snatches (seen too many – sorry – not prejudice –  experience) – yet I’ve seen a tall black US navy guy in full dress uniform who  looked fantastic and admirable – and felt he would command respect from  anyone.

    history of racism in Oz – I believe the English looked down on the Irish in  the 1840s, probably some Anglican/Catholic stuff until the 1950s, ten-pound Poms  were the poor immigrants, Greeks for the Snowy Mountain Scheme,  Lebanese in the  70’s, Vietnamese in the 80’s, Chinese in the 90’s, Muslim/Arabs in the  naughties, now Indians and Sudanese.

    Storming, norming and performing – the natural progression of meeting,  learning about and working with new groups – anyone want to go back to life  before zucchini ?

    Commenter
    race to the top
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    sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:57AM
  • according to the do gooders in the media who have blown this out of  proportion   this is racism. I am tired like everyone else of being accused  of racism and hate. it is the media who fans these fires maybe we should  start to declare war on them. If we have a view on gay marriage that is not  like the media we are bigoted if we have a view on people from different  religion like Islam we are called intolerant  we are being socially engineered  by the media to be yes people  time to stop the media  time to start a protest  against the media and its attacks on free speech and thought

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    Darren
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    Ryde
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    May 31, 2013, 8:58AM
  • The racism issue always gets taken out of proportion. Why is it okay for  people in NSW, QLD and VIC to make rude comments about each other in the light  of interstate rivalry and not okay to do the same to people from different  nations? There is a clear double standard here. Don’t get me wrong, I think  Eddie is a dill and his comments were badly timed, given the earlier incidents.  But it is okay to call someone a dumb Queenslander or insult them because they  are too skinny, too fat, on drugs, or because of the shape of their nose or  their hairstyle but not because of skin colour.

    It also seems okay for the Left to grind down the existence of Anglo-Saxons  and for the Museum of Contemporary Art in Sydney to hang up banners that can be  seen for miles showing the words “200 years of white lies” but when someone is  called an ape it becomes headline news around the world.

    A book of rules for one and another for everyone else?

    Commenter
    Watchdog
    Location
    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:58AM
  • If you hear so many racist taunts on air and in sporting fields and in public  places (ABC News reader on the bus), imagine how much more racist jokes and  slurs goes on behind closed doors and in private conversations! Do you still  call Australia a tolerant and inclusive society. I do not think so. We have long  way to go.

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    Raj
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 8:59AM
  • Not detracting from the issue in Australia but worth noting that racism or  discrimination because of ones race, colour, nationality or religion is just as  prevalent in other regions of the world. Countless examples on all continents. I  mean where do you want to start…. In Africa Hutu’s hate Tutu’s, in parts of  Asia Asian’s against Asian’s, in the pacific Islanders against Indians, in the  middle east extreme intolerance for non Islamic believers and on and on it  goes.

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    Yangs
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    May 31, 2013, 9:05AM
  • Australia is a racist country. I’m white and from Scotland.It is not uncommon  for ‘white’ Australian’s to shout derogatory comments about my country of origin  or tell me to go back to where I came from if they hear my accent. My experience  I imagine would be nothing of the magnitude my fellow man/womankind experience  just because of their outward appearance. Hats off to Adam Goodes and Harry  O’Brien for speaking out on a matter that really should not have to be spoken  out about in this day and age.  Come on people we are all the same.

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    Graham
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    Sydney
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    May 31, 2013, 9:07AM
  • Like minded people like to mix  with like minded people, that’s why we have  enclaves in every city in Australia. The problem is  multiculturalism doesn’t  work and many countries around the world are realising this. In Australia we  never had any problem with black/white until the locals jumped onboard the  african-american train. I get on well with Asian people but I find blacks and  middle eastern types generally too aggressive for my liking, if they were less  so perhaps they wouldn’t be criticised so much and then misread this criticism  as racism.

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    Gerry Gerry
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    melbourne
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    May 31, 2013, 9:08AM
  • I find it patronising to suggest other races can’t take a joke. If you can’t  laugh at yourself, you can’t laugh at anything.

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    Sparkplug
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    May 31, 2013, 9:14AM
  • Most people I know, and it’s a wide cross section of society, are racists.  But most of them know better than to make their views public. They share them  with people they feel they can trust. The older ones pine for the White  Australia Policy.  Has anyone been to the shopping district in the southern  Brisbane suburb of Moorooka lately? You could swear you were in Africa. Brit  prime minister Margret Thather’s comment to our Federal Foreign Affairs minister  Bob Carr, was spot on.

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    bobby
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    brisbane
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:14AM
  • When I immigrated from central Europe in the mid 80s (not via a boat) I found  that Australia was a wonderful country. Most Australians are great people and  even though my mates in high school would often jokingly refer to me as the wog,  or refo, I never took it to heart. It was the other “wog” kids from the  mediterranean regions that tended to exclude me rather than have me hang around  with them, as I was not of their kind. Funny that. I will laugh at a joke at  anyone’s expense including mine. So that must make me racist. Even against  myself. Soft PC society bullcrap. Get over it and move one. There are far bigger  issues in this country than a few light-hearted comments made by TV  personalities.

    Commenter
    THE PROUD WOG
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:16AM
  • What a complete joke! So it’s OK to make fun of Irishmen because their skin  is the same colour as ours but it’s not OK to make fun of someone from a  different race? What a load of garbage. Seriously, if that’s the view then that  view is racist. Why? Simple – racism is treating someone differently based on  their race. Given that, if it is OK to make fun of an Irishman then it must also  be OK to make fun of a Chinaman, Aboriginal or any other race. To suggest  otherwise is racist, pure and simple. The alternative is to ban jokes  altogether.

    Houston’s example of public policy could be applied to any other minority  group you care to think about. If he thinks Aborigines are hard done by, he  should look into what it’s like to be a single male of any race in a country  where the vast majority of voters are married with kids. I pay about twice as  much tax as my married colleagues because of my genetic predisposition. It’s not  fair at all but you know what? That’s life. It’s wonderful that people like  Houston can use the colour of their skin to make some feel bad about it but the  fact is that what’s good for the majority will always be what’s done. People  just have to learn to live with it.

    Commenter
    MotorMouth
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:16AM
  • I walk morning and evening. I see some of these “illegal immigrants” who have  been let into the general community. i speak with some of them, especially if  they look me in the eye expecting a remark or something. Yes, they are human as  well. But the whole country or at least 90 per cent of the population are  against the way they are breaking our immigration  rules, with, it appears, the  backing of the Federal Government, i.e. the Labor Party. One has to ask the  Labor reason for this, if it is not to increase their votes at an election. I  remember that Hawke let in 40,000 Chinese students, allegedly because of Tinamin  Square, but the real reason was their possible votes at an election in due  course.

    Commenter
    DaveM
    Location
    Drummoyne
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:18AM
  • Which country isn’t racist really?

    I’m polish and my grandparents are some of the most racist people I’ve ever  comes across.

    Commenter
    Monika
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:18AM
  • Australia is no longer a ‘white’ country which is a decision that the voters  have made, we are a multi-cultural society. What I can’t understand is, why if  we are a country of multiple races is practically everyone in Parliament house  white?

    Parliament house should reflect the broader cross-section of races across the  community.

    Commenter
    are you a casual rascist
    Location
    sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:20AM
  • How about legally supported racism – it exists in Australia and is supported  by the Australian government, it deprives access to facilities available to  normal to every other Permanent resident and Australian citizen can access. Yet  this group of people do not complain they simply get on with the job of  generating and supporting the tax system they are not eligible to get access to.

    There kids are not allowed access to loans for university, and are deprived  of the right to vote. Does this group of citizens complain, are there mass  demonstrations, when jokes are told (as in last night on the footy show) does  the press jump in??? – No

    This group also died and fought on the beaches with the great Aussi – sings  their praises, and knows how to take a joke.  – Yes it;’s the bloody kiwi – we  are second class citizens but we don’t complain why  – because all I can say is  thanks for the opportunity we have to be part of this great country.

    So tell your sheep jokes, poke fun at our accent we say good on ya mate, but  it would be nice to be considered an equal in this great country.

    Commenter
    grungysquash
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:22AM
  • Maybe McGuire and the girl weren’t referring to the colour of his skin when  they made those comments, but rather that horrid beard he was sporting.

    Commenter
    Lighten up
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    May 31, 2013, 9:24AM
  • We are all apes – of the superfamily Hominoidea, family hominidae.  But we  are great apes!

    Commenter
    springwoodman
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    May 31, 2013, 9:25AM
  • I must be racist as i believe that you can call someone black or white. So  don’t let a black man call me white or i’ll scream racism. My wife was racially  villified by an aboriginal woman when told ‘ i’m glad i don’t have your skinny  white legs” so racism goes all ways. Did my wife stand on her soap box and  complain? No, no point really as the aboriginal women was merely stating her  opinion. Lets just learn to laugh and not be aoffended.

    Commenter
    Mark
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    May 31, 2013, 9:28AM
  • I have copped racist comments many a time because of my ethnic origin…but i  don’t let it affect me. A bit sad in this day and age….

    Dosen’t help when politicians run around calling refugees illegals…

    Commenter
    Sam
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:30AM
  • Conservatives call it free speech.

    Commenter
    Sam
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:31AM
  • it all comes back to intent, what were the comments intended to do? a joke is  clearly designed to humourously highlight some aspect of human nature, racist?   australians are known for their self-depreciating humour, racist?  will we be  able to use mother-in-law jokes or will that also be racist?  the thought-police  mentality is slowly creeping in, will we wake up in time?

    Commenter
    fools paradise
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    May 31, 2013, 9:31AM
  • For those who can’t see a problem with the comments made by the 12-year-old  or Mr McGuire, think about how would you feel if you were called a c^&* and  perhaps you’ll get an inkling of what it’s like for targets of casual  racism.

    Commenter
    Loulou39
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    May 31, 2013, 9:33AM
  • Every country in the world has its race issues. Australia is no worse than  anywhere else. Whenever someone from overseas tells me they think Australia is  an inherently racist country I always ask them, “well name me one country with a  significant cultural mix that isn’t.” They never can. This is a problem the  world over, not just here. At the very least we are talking about it. We do need  to acknowledge that it also exists across all sections of society. White on  black, black on black etc. As someone who has spent a lot of time working with  teenagers in western Sydney, some of the most overt examples of racism I’ve seen  are between boys of African descent. So it’s not strictly an issue created by  the white majority. It’s just an ugly part of human nature.

    Commenter
    karlmarx
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    May 31, 2013, 9:35AM
  • man this is so BS. Being from a Chinese background who grew up here, my  friends are from various backgrounds. I’ve never ever even thought about judging  or prejudice against a person due to the colour of their skin or their religious  beliefs.

    but according to these experts and this article, I’m a racist because  sometimes I make racial stereotype jokes that mostly laughs at my own racial  background.

    Racism is intolerance and hatred in one’s heart, not what is defined by Urban  dictionary

    Commenter
    will
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    May 31, 2013, 9:41AM
  • I do feel for the indigenous peoples and the invasion that happened to  them.

    My people, culture and religion has also been destroyed, wiped out,  assimilated.

    The area where my ancestors come from have been invaded at least six times.  the following peoples invaded, raped, massacred: pre-celtic invasion circa  500BC, romans, Vikings, angles, Saxons, normans and also continuous invasion and  massacres by the English and the Scottish as I come from the border region of  Scotland / England.

    As for finding out what my ancestors dreamtime religion is.  Buckleys chances  as it has been destroyed.

    Commenter
    Pain also
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    May 31, 2013, 9:41AM
  • The good thing to come out of the McGuire event is that we’re now setting a  standard of compassion and understanding for all people who cross the line and  (sort of) apologise. Whilst we should not tollerate rasism, neither should we  throw people off the cliff for their ignorance, but instead embrace and guide  them.

    The sad thing to come out of this event is that not all people are treated  equally, and that powerful people are treated more fairly. Instead of being  allowed to use the media to defend himself and remind us all of what a great  citizen he is, McGuire should have been suspended and gagged, except for a  brief, unconditional apology.

    The real story here is about power & equality. Racial differences reflect  that, but don’t define it. McGuire, supported by the AFL and the media, has  proved that some remain more powerful and more equal.

    Commenter
    Village Green
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:43AM
  • Yes and some of them arte racist to will only mix with their own nationality  will not even try to accept others as friends or even associate with you. Try  having a disability and see how you are treated because of their cultural  upbringing think you cannot do anything for yourself and at times refer to you  as a cripple not even ask if you need help and get so uppity if you reject their  pushiness of their ‘doing their good deed”..

    Commenter
    Hoppy Pete
    Location
    Wenty
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:45AM
  • “An Australian, an Irishman and a South African walk into a bar.” This was  changed due to the fact a person from these three countries is often of the same  race.

    There is no such thing as we are all of different races. The race theory was  thrown out years ago. No different races, just one. OK

    However, making any jokes that upset someone who has a history of being  offended because of the colour of their kin or a comment to suggest they are  subhuman especially given the mis treatment of indigenous people (because of the  misuse of the racism theory in the past) does promote racism and is a racist  comment.

    Schools have to teach the fact that the theory of races is not true and never  was….and that racism is alive and well because of the races myth.

    Everyone sadly is a little bit racist.

    Commenter
    JP
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:47AM
  • Of course Australians are racist.  You only have to listen to the  vituperation coming out of the mouth of Anthony Mundine to realise that.

    Commenter
    panniac
    Location
    Bangkok
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:48AM
  • Well there goes most humour if we are not allowed to make jokes about  ourselves and others for a fear of it being mis-interpreted….. I see no  relation between mainstream humour and racism. The girl shouting a a football  match is racist. I do not have the full context of Eddies statement but it was  either racist or a very bad (un-funny) joke.

    Personally we all need to lighten up, we are all different, we should all  have a sense of humour, understand context and enjoy life.

    By the above definition I am a casual racist against everyone on the planet,  including muself…..

    Commenter
    Annoyed at PC

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 9:49AM
  • Show me someone who is not racist and I will show you a liar.

    Commenter
    Another Steve
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    May 31, 2013, 9:49AM
  • Geez – poor old little Johnny must be feeling pretty hard done by… lets  bring in some social engineering to prevent namism. As for the Ape thing… for  christ sake (oops sorry Christ) it was a 13 y/o girl.

    Commenter
    MrRight
    Location
    Lismore
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:52AM
  • M are you living in a day dream if the boss/HR person of of their culture the  “white” applicant has got no chance even with better qualifications. Kids do not  give a hoot who they play with it is parents/relatives who train them to be  racist. And they like to stick with their friends and most do not want to  associate with “white” Australians.

    Commenter
    Hoppy Pete
    Location
    Wenty
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:52AM
  • I think we have gone too far. If a white guy paints himself black he is  racist, if a black guy paints himself white he is not. Hello.

    Commenter
    Stretch
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    May 31, 2013, 9:54AM
  • Everyone is racist, Muslums are racist against Jews, White are racist against  blacks, Blacks are racist against whites some Asian cultures are racist against  everyone. Liberals are racist against Labor.. We have to accept that is the  world and us over reacting to an incident here will do nothing more than inflame  passions. I am probably racist as well, however I do accept individuals as I  meet them irrespective of colour,religion or greed. Maybe that is the way to go  forward

    Commenter
    Josemerrick
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    May 31, 2013, 9:58AM
  • Isn’t it interesting – when white, blue eyed, blonde, anglo-saxon, good  Christian people are called racist right on their face for the “casual” remarks  about other races, they cannot take it?

    Seems like a common trait here.

    Commenter
    SH of Sydney
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:58AM
  • If I laugh at a Jewish joke while wearing jeans and a nice, buttoned up  shirt, am I Neat Casual Racist?

    Commenter
    Imste2
    Location
    Canberra
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 9:59AM
  • Ordinary Australians of white ancenstry who are above age fifty or sixty  cannot really blame others for thinking of them as “racists” – these are the  same people who grew up or were young during the white Australia policy

    Commenter
    SH of Sydney
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:00AM
  • Everyone’s a racist, you like to chose your breed of dog based on certain  observations why should human’s be exempt from this? Best part about it, is I  find those the most racist are the immigrants that come to this country. I  recently went away from Sydney on a short holiday trip. I just have to say how  refreshing it was to see and interact with mostly Australians. The immigration  policy is over accepting and badly managed. It’s embarrassing to hear from  tourists saying how they didn’t think they were in Australia when they ended up  in one of many immigrant ghettoised suburbs.

    Commenter
    Pawel
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:00AM
  • If anyone thinks Australia is racist, I would say you try out living in  Europe as a person of non-anglo saxon origin (a.k.a white person). if you are  white, ask one of your non-white friends to do that for you (you be paying for  it). France, Denmark, Sweden, Germany – try living there as an ethnic person and  you would know what overt and covert racism is. The sad thing is, they never  learnt from the WWII and the racism of Nazi Germany.

    Australia had learnt its lesson after the white policy was lifted. I would  not say it is like Europe, but it still has to go a long, long, long way to  fully understand the meaning of living in harmony and having respect for other  races. It ishappenning, it’s just it wil take some more time.

    Commenter
    SH of Sydney
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:06AM
  • Peter Russell and much comedy would be out of business with attitudes like  this. And there’d be a lot less laughter in the world.

    People universally find identifying sub-groups, out-groups and their own  groups and making fun of them can be funny.

    If everything that someone might find offensive should be proscribed then  we’ll need to bring back blasphemy laws.

    There needs to be a reasonableness test or something like it. Everything is  about context. Eddie McGuire screwed up.

    Commenter
    oh
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    May 31, 2013, 10:06AM
  • we’re all bluddy immigrants!

    Commenter
    DexJnr
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    May 31, 2013, 10:09AM
  • I don’t consider myself racist but rather a culturist. I choose to express  negativity against certain cultures based on political, ideological and  religious differences which I do not agree with and don’t want to agree with.  Nothing to do with their appearance but rather their ideologies, mindsets and  education. For example I might say I prefer Japanese and Korean immigrants over  mainland Chinese based on political/educational conditioning. I prefer Indian  (Hindu) migrants over Pakistani based on religious flexibility.

    Commenter
    Great Sir Paul
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:11AM
  • In all this (tall poppy) flack, what is being missed is what Eddie was  actually trying to say.  In a uncharacteristically sloppy way, Eddie was trying  to point out how times have changed, how our attitudes toward racism have  improved significantly and over a relatively short time frame.  In the ‘olden’  days, shrewd opportunistic marketers would have seized the moment and made an  approach to Adam Goodes with $x million to do some kind of marketing campaign to  support this King Kong show.  And I’ll bet that the thought crossed the minds of  the marketers behind the show today (albeit, dismissed immediately).  Eddie was  thinking positively, trying to be constructive (to the extent you can on a  breakfast radio show), wanting to highlight how bad we were, and not that long  ago, by presenting a shocking concept – so we remain vigilant and never get  complacent with our desire to stamp out racism.  Why, because we are still very  racist.

    Eddie’s only problem (which admittedly gets on my nerves a bit) is that he  seemingly has this unbridled self belief that he can just speak without  thinking, that he will never slip up.  Respectfully, he ‘loves the sound of his  own voice’,

    It’s horrible Eddie, but age does make our minds weary, and at the pace you  have been going, it’s no surprise to see that eventually, even you stuffed up.   Reality is – it eventually happens to everyone.  It certainly wasn’t deliberate  racism or in any way reflected on your inner thoughts, and I’m real sorry it was  such a tough awakening.

    Commenter
    Guy
    Location
    Camberwell
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:13AM
  • Is it rascist if I am at the bar with an Australian, an Indian and a Chinese  man and one of them tells the joke?

    Commenter
    nopotatos
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:14AM
  • I’m an Australianized immigrant.  Once I had the Aussie accent, I was  accepted.  Afterwards,  seeing all the immigrants being rejected and bullied  because they were and sound differently, I decided to have my accent back.

    Guess what, I have been rejected again.  Racism is a shape that exists in  your ignoramus average joe.

    I sound different that I enjoy seeing people rejecting me.  I am pretty much  integrated in the Aussie way of life.  I work, I pay my taxes, I don’t commit  crimes.  I integrate with all cultures including the Anglo aussies.  I help out  when people need helps, even the strangers and even those red necks aussie  (don’t ask me why).

    For the last time, WAKE UP YOU PEOPLE, if you want to make a place with  lesser problems, just judge and reject the racists.

    If that day ever comes, Aliens and what not will be here invading this planet  with all they’ve got.  Now who’s laughing?

    Commenter
    Not_A_Normal_Man
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:15AM
  • So it’s ok to call a White European descendant australian a White-Fella but  we can’t refer to to Aboriginals as black as that is racist. So “Reverse”  racisim is ok, just not actual racism. I mean after all isn’t it only racism if  a white person says it? Really. I have neighbours from all backgrounds and  religions. Scottish, Lebanese, Filipino, Chinese, Croatian and Australian. I  work with people from Syria, Malaysia, Poland, Greece, Thailand, Vietnam, China,  India, Ireland, England, Germany, Singapore, Korea, Philippines, Bosnia,  Croatia, Colombia, Ethiopia, Lebanon, Spain, Argentina, South Africa,  Bangladesh, Indonesia, Jersey and Australia.

    Do I have a problem with any of them? Only when they chew loudly!

    If you want to find out which countries are racist then look here.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

    Australia is in top percentile of “accepting” countries. Stop calling  Australia racist.

    The thing i have noticed is that something is only ever classified as racist  if it is said by Australian. Other cultures can say what they like about  Australian but that’s not racist because they might get offended if we says  that’s racist.

    Seriously, everyone needs to get over all of this blown out of the water, PC,  namby pamby BS and get on with life! If you get offended by something small,  then you are way too uptight and you need to let go.

    If you can’t laugh at yourself or at a joke, then examine yourself. Racisim  would not be a problem if people weren’t so precious about there attitudes

    Her endeth my rant for the day!

    Commenter
    Andyroo
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:16AM
  • Races don’t exist, they are a social contruct. Australian or the short  version Aussie means something born here or citizenship, nothing  else. Everybody except Aboriginals are migrants or descendants of  migrants. Migrants discriminated by Australians = Everybody except  Aboriginals discriminated by Citizens. In other words, an absurdity.

    Commenter
    Music
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    May 31, 2013, 10:20AM
  • So when we sit down and watch a comedian on stage are we all to be offended  ??

    Commenter
    scw
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    May 31, 2013, 10:20AM
  • There was a study recently true or not that suggested that other countries  were more racist.  I am racist .  Everyone is .  Why are white people always the  bad guys.  Look at Sweden.  no imperial history and they have been called  racists.  You can’t win.  Everyone is a victim .

    Commenter
    c.logue
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    May 31, 2013, 10:21AM
  • Question: What is the definition of an accountant? Answer: an actuary who has  had a personality bypass. is that offensive?

    Why do AFL players go around in three’s ? Because one can read, one can write  and the other likes to hang out with intellectuals!  is that offensive?

    How can you tell if a Kiwi has been in your fridge? A: Love bites on the leg  of lamb! Is that offensive?

    If I imitate a British or Kiwi or Australian accent as part of a Joke is it  funny, or offensive ? If  I imitate an Indian, aboriginal , Chinese etc. accent  is that funny, or offensive? Has anyone seen Chris Rock do black jokes? Is  that offensive? If I made a joke about someone being spastic is that  offensive ? because steady Eddie made heaps of jokes about people with a  disability . no one reported him to the human rights commission (to my  knowledge) its all too complicated, too precious and frankly I am over  it

    Commenter
    Graham H
    Location
    Brisbane
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:22AM
  • everyone, everywhere in the world, is racist to some extent. If you are in  room with a group of friends from your country who share a similar appearance  and someone who looks different enters that room, no matter how hard you try,  you will not be able to treat them exactly the same as you would those with the  same cultural background as you. Imagine if I walked along the streets of  Sydney pointing at every nonwhite person saying “foreigner, look look,  foreigner!” That happens to me several times a day in China. understanding  what they say about you doesn’t help much either. They seem to think all white  foreigners are American. Though I was asked if I was Indian. twice. (I am very  white, my Dad is Scottish and pale skin is a family trait) Does it bother me  living in a place where everyone points and stares? yes it does, and it doesn’t  get easier as time goes by. Going through Africa, Asia, Europe and North  America, people hang out with their own. There are of course those who mingle  freely between races and creeds, but that’s usually less than 20% of any city  population, even in big cities like New York and London. you still see people in  groups of their own. The best we can hope for this early in history is to be  aware of it, and ashamed of it, and try to improve so that future generations  can truly be non-racist.

    Commenter
    Bloke
    Location
    China
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:23AM
  • I have been subject to racist slurs, ridicule and casual comments all of my  life. I actually have no problem with it since it seems to me that it adds color  to an otherwise dour culture without any ill intent. I have never found the law  to be racist, nor opportunities for education or employment to be racist. And  that is the key thing. I also find alot of humor in ‘racism’ like the joke  mentioned. On balance, I think political correctness is excessive in Australia,  and this is worse than tolerating a degree of racist comment. And I reckon I’m  in the silent majority.

    Commenter
    Maddoc
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    May 31, 2013, 10:27AM
  • When I started work in Campsie, my family collectively said “Well that’s not  a nice area”. We grew up in greater western sydney so it was because of the  perceived crime rate or anything, it was because it was predominantly Asian.  This is a great example of casual racism.

    Commenter
    Mas
    Location
    Winston Hills
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:28AM
  • Oh for goodness sakes. Australians not only laugh at other cultures but also  at themselves. So are we racist against ourselves? Everybody is equal and should  not be discriminated against but Australians are known for taking the mickey out  of each other. Keep in mind racism goes the other way as well. There was an  aboriginal boy at school the other day that called his female Indian classmate a  curry dot. this was wrong and dealt with but heaven forbid if she had called him  an Abo.

    Commenter
    MAB007
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:28AM
  • So blonde jokes are out too? Or Irish jokes? Pommie jokes? These are no more  racist than the headline of this article.

    Commenter
    David
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:30AM
  • Having witnessed first hand blatant racism and mockery of western people and  society whilst living in Singapore, I realise that Australia is paradise.  I  vehemently object to funding the worlds problems whilst countries in Asia  blatantly and with state sanction deliver, contribute and exacerbate them.  We  need to wake up to ourselves and engage these people smarter, with one hand they  offer an olive branch (whilst taking money foreign money of course) with the  other they prepare the knife.

    Commenter
    Stevie
    Location
    Studio 54
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:30AM
  • The Establishment screwed up with their leftist forced multiculturalism and  population fragmentation agenda and now instead of admitting their mistakes they  push and push and push their leftist “guilt complex” on whites. You know what?  We don’t buy it anymore.

    You can take your “racism” articles, fold it and put in the bin.

    And how about for this article author to go to live in Lakemba or Auburn and  then tell use about “experience” of “peaceful cultural mosaic”?

    Commenter
    Serge
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    May 31, 2013, 10:32AM
  • So if I call  a child a little monkey, then I am a racist? Grow up  Australia. The thought police have taken over to the extent that jokes are not  allowed and whites are virtually banned from speaking at all. Last time I  looked, Goodes was more white than black but enjoys the extraordinary benefits  allocated to non-whites as well. Maybe he’s more racist than the rest of  us? This country has gone to the dogs (am I allowed to say that?).

    Commenter
    John
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    May 31, 2013, 10:32AM
  • I must be racist, as apparently are the composers of the 218 preceding  comments.  All the above comments can be interpreted as racist.

    Commenter
    stanislaus
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:34AM
  • I feel that this has blown out of proportion.

    We are all different. Intrinsically, down to how our bodies work, we are  different. For instance, I could have tanned skin. It means I came from a hotter  climate that had more sun, thus my adaptation is a tan. A white person generally  comes from a cold climate with less sun and so they’re pale. We must accept that  we’re different and not the same.

    The problem is when people say that they’re different AND better. But even in  that case they might be right. A hefty Samoan fellow is probably better than me  in the gym. I think that’s fair. It’s genetics isn’t it?

    I think injecting some humour into this issue is good. It means that we  acknowledge the difference, we accept it, we joke about old times when it was a  serious issue, and we move on. I don’t see the Chinese complaining. They  could. I don’t see the Jews kicking up a fuss when an anti Semitic joke comes  up. They could too. People need to lighten up and take a joke.

    In that vein, I don’t see what was so bad about what the girl said and what  Eddie said. Theyre both humorous insults. Adam Goodes has ape like  characteristics. So do I. It’s true. Deal with it. Jews tend to have larger  noses. Asians smaller eyes. All these adaptations. They’re differences. Who  cares. I could say Eddie looks like Santa Claus. Is it because he’s white? Yes.  Would he or anyone care? No.

    The only truly racist comment I can think of would be if Eddie went up to  Adam and said ‘Hey Adam, you resemble that slave my grandfather had!’.

    Commenter
    L

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 10:36AM

                

  • Nearly every culture has a tendency to be racist, when I was in Egypt local  men spat at my feet as I walked past them, shop keepers would throw a bucket of  water on the ground I just walked on to cleanse the path whilst spruiking  something in a angry tone or being a white western female I must want to be  treated like a whore, even tho I dressed in their culturally acceptable  clothing. In the UK entire suburbs are no go zones for whites, many African  nations ethnically “cleanse” their countries.  India has a caste system that has  the Brahmin people openly and blatantly discriminating against the likes of the  Shudra people.  Europe has expanding right wing Neo Nazi political parties.  To  call Australians racist is the pot calling the kettle black.

    Commenter
    Yode

                    

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    Alexandria

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:37AM

                

  • To those who voted yes I’m a casual racist and I’m not going to change – do  you realise how other countries view us? Red neck racist backwater country? Are  you proud of that? Because I for one am embarrassed by it, and I’m sick of you  knobs proudly being racist and giving the rest of us a bad name.

    Commenter
    Hayden

                    

    Location
    Enmore

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:42AM

                

  • With over 10,000 votes counted, 45% of respondents agree that they are casual  racists but are “not going to change”. That’s by far the biggest proportion of  any of the answer options.

    It’s a shame that one of the options didn’t state: “Perhaps I’m a casual  racist, but the whole subject has been blown totally out of proportion.” I  reckon most people would have voted for that.

    Racism, or even the subtlest suggestion of racism, has become the taboo of  our time. Many people in the world are racist to some degree, as anyone who has  travelled widely will know. In most cases, people are too polite to reveal such  prejudice openly.

    In a world threatened by a seemingly unstoppable population explosion, with  wars simmering in the Middle East and many other evils within our shores and  beyond, perhaps an off-the-cuff remark to a football star by a 13-year-old girl  is not the most important story in the world. Yet that story, and the similar  Eddie McGuire nonsense that followed it, led the news bulletins on many TV  channels and radio news broadcasts.

    “Get a sense of perspective,” might be good advice. And then there’s the old  folk saying: “Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt  me.”

    Commenter
    Pete

                    

    Location
    NSW

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:51AM

                

  • Caught a train home in Perth last night. A man of African descent was  obviously drunk or on drugs and was abusing people on the train and every second  word that came out of his mouth was a curse word. He was racially abusing some  Asian passengers, and called me a “white c—“. He was swiftly hauled off by the  transit police. And he was calling them racists for dragging him away.

    Commenter
    Elsewhere

                    

    Location
    Perth

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 10:54AM

                

  • I’m reminded of one of the songs from the stage musical “Avenue Q” – entitled  “Everyone’s a Little Bit Racist”:

    Everyone’s a little bit racist, sometimes, Doesn’t mean we go around  committing hate crimes, Look around and you will find No-one’s really  colourblind Maybe that’s a fact we all should face, Everyone makes  judgements, based on race.

    You’ll find it on Youtube – highly recommended. If people don’t see at least  a little bit of themselves in the song, I’d be very surprised indeed. And yes, I  do see pieces of myself in the song.

    Commenter
    DavidRa

                    

    Location
    Sydney

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 11:00AM

                

  • Being disadvantaged is a problem for a migrant.

    I have a German background – I “fit in”.

    My wife is working in a head office of a big retailer. For the last two years  she is filling in for her boss who has ongoing cancer treatment. She does not  stand a slightest chance to get a management position: She is Chinese.

    Recently she had an interview somewhere else. Her credentials are right, our  name sounds “Aussie” – but she would not get the job. “The chemistry is not  there”, she was told, after they met her.

    She is kind of alright. But in the long run it hurts psychologically to be  denied career chances because of having the wrong skin colour.

    Regards Peter

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    Petros

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 11:00AM

                

  • Jokes and jocular name calling, even if someone is offended is not racism as  far as I’m concerned. My Indian friend doesn’t mind being called a curry  muncher, my old flatmate who is gay happily accepts being called a poof and all  the wogs I know call themselves wogs. I consider many of these people good  friends and they all understand the difference between joking around and actual  racism; like refusal of service, outright abuse or not being sat next to on the  train. Choosing to to take unintended offence is not some right,  misinterpreting comments doesn’t mean you have the moral high ground. When did  we all become so over sensitive? Have we nothing better to channel our efforts  into? There are much more tangible problems for society to tackle. The  Goodes saga is a joke, a grown man, a first grade footballer is upset; “Gutted”  at the comments of a 13 year old girl. Stick and stones people. Call me what  you want, make jokes about my mum if you want, I do not understand this fad for  being offended or bizarre beliefs that avoiding offence should be a prime  objective. How about just turning the other cheek, getting on with life? or no  let’s just carry on like  a bunch of 4 year old girls and dry at everything we  don’t like or don’t understand. . . .

    Commenter
    Bobo

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 11:16AM

                

  • Think people need to look up the discrimation act because it clearly states  white people can not discrimate against black people BUT the black can  discrimate against whites.how wrong is that that there is a law that protects  them from racism.what about their schools white people cant attend or the  football programs for aboriginals no white boy can join it.so before you all try  going off at us white people have a look at the act and see where it is fair

    Commenter
    darls

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 11:34AM

                

  • I know this bloke who gets benefits for having indigenous blood in his  heritage. On the blokes maternal side he has Irish, Scottish, German and  aborigine heritage – his mothers father was half aborigine. I call him a dole  bludger and tell him to stop this BS compensation mentality. He has had the same  opportunities that I have had…we are the same age.. But he choses to suck on  the system…  So my question is..does that make me racist? To conclude with my  story I want to ad that this blokes mother and my mother are sisters.. Yep  that’s right…we are first cousins and we have the same grandaddy and the same  blood running through our veins on the maternal side. Now if some of you deem  that my remarks are racist… Then I have another question for you…does it  also mean that I am racist toward myself?

    Commenter
    Mm

                    

    Location
    NSW

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 11:42AM

                

  • Sorry, when did Urban Dictionary become a trusted source of information for  the media? You might as well quote Wikipedia in a trial as the basis of your  case and expect the judge not to throw your case out of court. What happened to  in-line citations from peer-reviewed sociologist’s reports? Scientific-based  evidence? No wonder this country is going to the dogs – casual racism and the  ever-downwards spiral of quality journalism? We just can’t win.

    Commenter
    Oskmey

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 11:52AM

                

  • Geez, this country’s become so anal in the last 20 years. Everyone’s become a  protected species. Grow a set, get a sense of humour and assume the best from  people. ALL humour/jokes are at the expense of something!

    What amazes me is that some mediocre footballer with a dark complexion  mutters some nonsense and we all stand up and listen. Another boring media  beatup. Since when is he an expert on anything? Or is it merely enough that he  has more pigmentation in his skin than most to justify his banal waffle? Just  because you belong to a group of people does not qualify you to speak for it!  Pure opportunism and I’m sick of it.

    By the way, for those fans of Peter Sellers, you’d recognise that this  fair-complexioned Caucasian of Central European descent is going by the  pseudonym of Hrundi V Bakshi, the very funny Indian character in the movie, The  Party, played by Peter Sellers. Does that make Mr Sellers and/or me (and the  squillions of others that have seen the movie and laughed their heads off) a  racist because we think it’s funny?

    As a country, we have to become a lot less precious before we implode on our  own correctness. We’re becoming a society of fractured subgroups rather than a  community of AUSTRALIANS! It’s almost as though we are looking for a fight to  highlight our differences.

    Commenter
    Hrundi V Bakshi

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 12:00PM

                

  • It amazes me how it only seems to be the “caucasian” that is racist! what  about cultures that have derogatory terms for “foreigners” or “different people”  such as Goy, gringo, infidel, whitefella? are they not racist? racism is a  two sided street if people dont want to be called names then they should not  either! take the prolific use of the word nigger in african american culture,  it is regularly used and even bands have the word in their names (NWA), BUT if  anyone other than an african american used the word it becomes racist? Can  someone explain how the use of a racist term is ok if used by one segment of  society but is not acceptable for use by anyone else? personally I find it  racist no matter who uses it! I have participated in an indigenious cultural  awareness course where we were constantly referred to as “whiteskins” and I  found this racist but apparently it is not (according to course leader) please  explain? I used to be called a wog at school and personally wore it as a  badge of pride that I was different, It was a nickname and I was not segregated  from the “white” society or the “australian” society.I was called this even  though my family is a mix of both east and west europe. I have been told by  indigenious that “I dont belong here” then please tell me where I belong. I have  no knowledge of my polish heritage and do not speak the language, the same  applying to the irish side of my geneality. This country is going mad with  political correctness gone wrong as the current trend seems to be  that  “everyone white is racist and everyone else is not”

    Commenter
    reefdog

                    

    Location
    sydney

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 12:17PM

                

  • why is it, its only white people that can be racist, other cultures poke fun  at aussies and other caucasians, wheres our news article.

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    ..

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 12:18PM

                

  • I suspect, based on the current definition of racism, most people I know  would be regarded racists. It exists in every country I have visited, albeit  generally at low levels. Many of the people who (rightly) complain about being  the victims of racism, are also racists themselves. If I, as an Aussie, tell a  joke about ‘an Irishman walked into the bar one day….”, then I am a racist.  But, if I am an Irishman, its not racist? Why don’t we simply accept that (low  level) racism exists, will always exist, and get on with it.

    Commenter
    John G

                    

    Location
    Bangkok

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 12:19PM

                

  • I’ve only been in Australia for a short time but feel that racism does exist  in subtle and not so subtle ways. Being an Indian it wasn’t easy leaving home  and coming here but I did because I love this country. A white skinned person  doesn’t deserve any more to live here than an immigrant who works, earns his  bread and contributes to the economy. I’d urge others like me to stand firm in  the face of these petty storms and never let our goal go out of sight .. to  ultimately call ourselves Australians and this beautiful country OUR home

    Commenter
    ozindian

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 12:25PM

                

  • A further observation for Michael Rogers…….by characterising my comments  as “fatuous nonsense” you said so much more about yourself and your obviously  erroneously elevated opinion of yourself. This, of course, is a fundamental  precept of racism……….take a look at yourself Michael you’re part of the  problem. My reference to World War 2 was quite clearly an empathic one in the  context of what the British endured and no Michael that does not mean I exclude  the contribution of others. As for your theory of the USA  involvement……..what can I say you’re plainly prejudiced towards your own  view of the world to the point of insulting people with whom you don’t  agree………I suggest you join Eddie for some counselling.

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    wizened and wise

                    

    Location
    Sydney

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 12:50PM

                

  • a sponge, a crustacean and a turnip walk into a bar…

    Commenter
    scan300

                    

    Location
    Melbourne

                        

    Date and time
    May 31, 2013, 12:51PM

                

  • The root cause of racism is trying to elevate your own status by putting  others down. Understanding this is the first step to removing it. When a culture  or race believes they are superior to another, then racism is the result, not  the cause.

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    sam

                    

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    May 31, 2013, 12:59PM

                

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2 thoughts on “In the Media – Are you a casual racist? … 44% so far have said Yes, but I’m not going to change!!!

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  2. This is what I have noticed as the typical reaction when racism is discussed in Australia. The childish ‘but they do it too’, or ‘they’re worse than I am’, or even ‘they need to harden up’. It is defensive behaviour, solves nothing and deflects attention from the real issue. Ape and the like is more offensive to Aboriginal people because for a long time they were governed by the Flora and Fauna Acts of the respective states. So they were actually classified as animals. You don’t think that’s offensive? Well that’s because it didn’t happen to you. Racism is different for non-Anglo Australians because being an Anglo-Australian doesn’t affect your status. It doesn’t affect your ability to be educated, or get a job, be served at the shop or even just be treated as a human being. It does for Non-Anglo Australians. When they are being told directly to their face, or implicitly through policies that exclude their participation, non-Anglo Australians -and Indigenous Australians especially – that they are not welcome, that because of a trait that they have no control over they will be excluded from society as non-Anglo Australians experience it. THAT is why it is different. That does mean I condone any form of racism, because it is not acceptable. I am just demonstrating the difference. Frankly the people that are defending this type of behaviour make me sick.

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